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Donald Trump Is Better Than Hillary Clinton

Imo, he is the lesser of two evils. I don't believe he is racist, he just speaks what many people think. I don't think he is a misogynist, he just doesn't try to be overally PC. He may be a bit too far right, but HC is a socialist Social Justice Warrior who puts feelings over logic.

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Reply 1
Prefer him over Clinton but he would make a terrible President as far as the purpose of that office is concerned.
Original post by Pulse.
Prefer him over Clinton but he would make a terrible President as far as the purpose of that office is concerned.


Agreed.
As a right-leaning Libertarian, I'll agree with you that Donald Trump is neither racist nor sexist. To talk about illegal immigration from Mexico does not warrant racism and the only reason the left are determined to make every discussing from the right about immigration into a matter of race is because they want to hijack the minority vote. Much like with the Black Lives Matter movement, the reason the left choose not to get involved and dispel fiction is because the narrative and public disdain complies to their political bias.

If you're asking if Trump is better than Clinton, then yes, I agree. Hillary Clinton is the epitome of establishment politics and four, or indeed eight, years of a Clinton administration will bring no change to the corrupt American political structure and it'll be awash with foreign interventionism, increased globalism and ensued appeasement with special interest groups.

However, in the long-term, I don't believe Donald Trump is the best candidate. Unfortunately, Trump is too much of a divisive figure - especially when it comes to the minority vote, women and political correctness. On the minority vote, Donald Trump was reckless in saying that "Mexicans are sending over their rapists...", just as he was reckless in saying that Megyn Kelly was on her period, just as he is reckless in mistaking political incorrectness for sheer rudeness. The Hispanic vote is very important to the Republican Party, especially given that since the last election the percentage of Latin American voters voting for the GOP was on the rise. I think Trump will destroy the new Republican movement and alienate a demographic which is becoming increasingly important in the US politics.

I personally wanted Rubio to win. I know he's a bit boring and also a puppy for the political establishment, but he would have easily won the Hispanic vote, he's a true conservative, he's likable and he would have easily won Hillary Clinton. Even though I'm a conservative, I want Hillary to win this election so the GOP movement can come back next year with a true conservative who appeals to more voters.
Clinton's a manipulative liar and a hypocrite but at least she doesn't encourage violent racism. She's awful but imo the obvious choice in the face of the competition. I'd have preferred Sanders but you can't have everything.

Depends if you want your oppression institutionalised or blatant
Reply 5
Original post by galaxyruler
Clinton's a manipulative liar and a hypocrite but at least she doesn't encourage violent racism. She's awful but imo the obvious choice in the face of the competition. I'd have preferred Sanders but you can't have everything.

Depends if you want your oppression institutionalised or blatant


Hmm maybe. But what has Donald trump actually done that is racist? Nothing.
I literally just stopped supporting Clinton after the whole corruption scandal (which is weird because I'm British) but I wouldn't support Trump in a million years. He IS racist (what is he gonna do to stop these racial tensions in America? NOTHING!), and he makes out as though he's a man of the people, even though he started out with a 'small' loan of one million dollars, and he's also Islamophobic because he wants to ban Muslims from America (I assume he wants all of them out of America as well) and not only that, he'll probably make the whole situation with Russia even worse than it already is.
Original post by FNPC
Imo, he is the lesser of two evils. I don't believe he is racist, he just speaks what many people think. I don't think he is a misogynist, he just doesn't try to be overally PC. He may be a bit too far right, but HC is a socialist Social Justice Warrior who puts feelings over logic.

Discuss.


Is this a troll? Racism is where you discriminate against an individual or group on the basis of race. So to say that you want to ban all Muslims from entering the US is racist. If that is a mere vocalisation of what many people are thinking, then many people are racist. If you are condoning what he is saying, then you are racist.

Some terrorists are Muslims. Other terrorists are called Tony Blair and George Bush. It all depends on where you stand. But at the end of the day, discriminating against all white people because of these eejits or discriminating against all Muslims because of their perceived links to terrorism is both wrong, misguided and counterproductive. It is the sort of terrifying populism that saw the rise of Hitler.
Reply 8
Original post by ByEeek
Is this a troll? Racism is where you discriminate against an individual or group on the basis of race. So to say that you want to ban all Muslims from entering the US is racist. If that is a mere vocalisation of what many people are thinking, then many people are racist. If you are condoning what he is saying, then you are racist.

Some terrorists are Muslims. Other terrorists are called Tony Blair and George Bush. It all depends on where you stand. But at the end of the day, discriminating against all white people because of these eejits or discriminating against all Muslims because of their perceived links to terrorism is both wrong, misguided and counterproductive. It is the sort of terrifying populism that saw the rise of Hitler.



I can't be bothered to type it all out because it's late :biggrin:. But please google this
Original post by ByEeek
Is this a troll? Racism is where you discriminate against an individual or group on the basis of race. So to say that you want to ban all Muslims from entering the US is racist. If that is a mere vocalisation of what many people are thinking, then many people are racist. If you are condoning what he is saying, then you are racist.

Some terrorists are Muslims. Other terrorists are called Tony Blair and George Bush. It all depends on where you stand. But at the end of the day, discriminating against all white people because of these eejits or discriminating against all Muslims because of their perceived links to terrorism is both wrong, misguided and counterproductive. It is the sort of terrifying populism that saw the rise of Hitler.


Preducism towards ideological groups is clearly not racism. That's like saying the red scare was racist towards communists. Also, there is far more wrong with Islam than just it's relationship with terrorism.
Original post by KingBradly
Preducism towards ideological groups is clearly not racism.


Really? So I can discriminate against Muslims or Christians purely on the basis of their faith?
Original post by ByEeek
Really? So I can discriminate against Muslims or Christians purely on the basis of their faith?


I don't see how what you "can" do is of any interest. You can do whatever you like, and if you can't then that's not necessarily a good reason why you shouldn't be able to.
Original post by ByEeek
Really? So I can discriminate against Muslims or Christians purely on the basis of their faith?


He's saying that racism is discrimination against a racial group. As Islam is an ideology, you can't be racist to Muslims because they aren't a race. You may as well say you're being sexist towards Islam for all the sense it makes.
Original post by FNPC
Imo, he is the lesser of two evils. I don't believe he is racist, he just speaks what many people think. I don't think he is a misogynist, he just doesn't try to be overally PC. He may be a bit too far right, but HC is a socialist Social Justice Warrior who puts feelings over logic.

Discuss.



Well duh!
Original post by Luke Kostanjsek
He's saying that racism is discrimination against a racial group. As Islam is an ideology, you can't be racist to Muslims because they aren't a race. You may as well say you're being sexist towards Islam for all the sense it makes.


Fair enough. However discrimination on belief is equally bad. Just as discrimination on any basis is. The point being that all of those people just getting on with life, minding their own business get caught up in the cross fire. That is not acceptable.
With the way the world is at the moment, we need right leaning leaders who want to maintain borders and maintain Western culture. Hilary would b a disaster.
Hillary looks like a Lizard
1) He never said ban all Muslims. Just ones from places like Syria and Saudi Arabia.

2) He never said ban all Mexicans. Just the drug cartels and gangs.

2) Most people agreed with it, privately.

3) It's their country. They can let in who they want. They are a nation of European immigrants.
Original post by ByEeek
Fair enough. However discrimination on belief is equally bad. Just as discrimination on any basis is. The point being that all of those people just getting on with life, minding their own business get caught up in the cross fire. That is not acceptable.


You think? Would you say it's okay to discriminate against fascists or racists?

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