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Graduating with undergraduate degree at 24. Bad for career?

Long story short:
I've taken a gap year since leaving school and might now take another one to go to college and then hopefully get into a better uni. My birthday is in march, so that means I will start at 20 and finish at 24.
I want to study economics with politics or philosophy. Will taking longer than most people mess up my career?

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Original post by tagomago
Long story short:
I've taken a gap year since leaving school and might now take another one to go to college and then hopefully get into a better uni. My birthday is in march, so that means I will start at 20 and finish at 24.
I want to study economics with politics or philosophy. Will taking longer than most people mess up my career?


Nah, my mum went to uni in her late 20's and graduated when she was 31 and still managed to get promoted in her teaching role
I shouldn't have thought it would make too much difference tbh. 24 isn't much older than the "normal" graduation age.
Reply 3
Nope. I'm not sure what I'd like to do as a profession; definitely not something that would require a PhD
Reply 4
I would like to either work for NGO's or in business. I don't have a set profession in mind, though.
I've also considered International Relations/politics, but I'm wondering if I would need something to make me more employable considering I'll be older than most when I graduate - if I decide to go next year. That's probably my main worry, I guess.
Original post by tagomago
I would like to either work for NGO's or in business. I don't have a set profession in mind, though.
I've also considered International Relations/politics, but I'm wondering if I would need something to make me more employable considering I'll be older than most when I graduate - if I decide to go next year. That's probably my main worry, I guess.


Graduating at 24 won't make any difference at all. It's 3 years out of a 40-50 year career.
Original post by threeportdrift
Graduating at 24 won't make any difference at all. It's 3 years out of a 40-50 year career.


Surely it depends on if you've had work experience prior to graduation? Being 24 and never having had a job looks pretty bad, regardless of your grades (not saying this is relevant to OP but it is to some people)
Original post by greenmang0
Surely it depends on if you've had work experience prior to graduation? Being 24 and never having had a job looks pretty bad, regardless of your grades (not saying this is relevant to OP but it is to some people)


Surely it depends on whether you can string your words together?
Surely it depends on whether you can work in a team?
Surely it depends on whether you can work with Python?

There are hundreds of factors that might affect a single individual's ability to get a job when they graduate from university. However, simply being 24 is not a significant one.

Actually, soft skills, like not being a complete dweeb and looking as though you will fit into an established, adult workforce is one of the most important things and is very commonly overlooked. Just being an open, friendly, sociable colleague requires no specific experience, but it rarely occurs in people who have experience of nothing.
Original post by greenmang0
Surely it depends on if you've had work experience prior to graduation? Being 24 and never having had a job looks pretty bad, regardless of your grades (not saying this is relevant to OP but it is to some people)


Finishing uni and never having had a job looks pretty bad whether you're 20 or 70.
But it looks much less bad at 20 imo. If you've got to beyond the normal university graduation age, that's when it really starts to look bad. Before that it could be attributed to the person being REALLY focused on their studies.
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Original post by greenmang0
But it looks much less bad at 20 imo. If you've got to beyond the normal university graduation age, that's when it really starts to look bad. Before that it could be attributed to the person being REALLY focused on their studies.


What sort of jobs are we talking about here? If it's internships during a degree then I would hopefully be able to get them.
If it's professional job experience (not retail) you're meant to have during the years out then that's worrying for me.
Reply 11
Original post by greenmang0
Surely it depends on if you've had work experience prior to graduation? Being 24 and never having had a job looks pretty bad, regardless of your grades (not saying this is relevant to OP but it is to some people)


TBH nobody will ask for your age. On your job interview they will probably think you are 21 and fresh out of uni.
Say your birthday was in September then you would be 19 when starting uni, 20 if having done a gap year!

then if you did a 4 year programme with a placement year, you would be 24, turning 25 at the end of summer and merely a few weeks after starting a graduate programme in July / August, with some starting in September to give you the summer to have some fun.

You shouldn't have any problems with your career as long as you can show why you did what you did when you did it so being realistic.. how much of a better uni do you think you will get in to with going to college? Probably not much, and although people assume the best universities are the obvious ones like Oxford and Cambridge when actually some specialisms are at lower ranked universities. Advertising for example, huge industry worth billions yet the best course for advertising is at London College for Communication, part of the University of the Arts. Somewhere like this might be much more suited for you than somewhere elitist and stuffy like Oxford.

You mention Politics and Economics.. well in the political realm is a lot about public relations and political consultancy / strategic communications / crisis management whatnot. There is a revolving door between government and the PR industry. LCC offers a great course in public relations or over at Cardiff there is Journalism, Communications and Politics and this a great mix of how the media has so much power to influence the world - take the shootings in the last few days and how the aspect of live-streaming, not just uploading a video but actually inviting the internet to be with when something crazy like that happens can have a huge impact of tens of thousands of people marching in protest all over the world.

Cardiff offers modules such as:

Introduction to Government and also Political Thought and Political Science,
Representations
Influencing Public Policy,
War Politics and Propaganda,
Citizen Media
The Making and Shaping of News
Communicating Causes
Elections in the UK
Spin and Unspun: Public Relations and the News Media

Cardiff is ranked 35th nothing spectacular but a good university and would open doors, so no point fighting for a better uni when you can do so well in other places as I have tried to demonstrate. The advertising course at LCC for example could have you working for Ogilvy & Mather in London and then on to New York! They recognise the prestige of the advertising course at LCC within the advertising industry.

The degree from Cardiff could get into newspapers, government, PR, and also within financial services so to build experience in all these areas would make your profile stronger and perspective on all of these collaborating industries.

This is so much more interesting and modern to studying PPE which has created a robotic governing class.

So this is to go to show that if you research and think of a clever way to start your career it could be really interesting! Entirely up to you but really doing your research might really help and finding out what you can do with what you've got so far would be good and how you can work with that.

Anything else just ask.
Original post by greenmang0
But it looks much less bad at 20 imo. If you've got to beyond the normal university graduation age, that's when it really starts to look bad. Before that it could be attributed to the person being REALLY focused on their studies.


Have you ever considered that you have an awful lot of fixed (and negative) opinions on this subject, when you haven't actually been an employer?

How will anyone even know you are 24, not 23, or 22 or 21 - you don't put your date of birth on a job application and age discrimination is illegal anyway!
Original post by tagomago
Long story short:
I've taken a gap year since leaving school and might now take another one to go to college and then hopefully get into a better uni. My birthday is in march, so that means I will start at 20 and finish at 24.
I want to study economics with politics or philosophy. Will taking longer than most people mess up my career?


It will make no difference whatsoever. Employers don't really think like that, they just want to know what you are capable of.

And for further reassurance, they aren't even allowed to ask your age now, so they wouldn't even know.
Original post by threeportdrift
Have you ever considered that you have an awful lot of fixed (and negative) opinions on this subject, when you haven't actually been an employer?

How will anyone even know you are 24, not 23, or 22 or 21 - you don't put your date of birth on a job application and age discrimination is illegal anyway!


I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be offensive. I'm just speaking from the perspective of someone who's barely ever worked and is 21 and is worried I'll never get a job if I graduate at 24, tbh. With regard to how they'd know - don't people generally put their secondary school education on their CV?
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by greenmang0
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be offensive. I'm just speaking from the perspective of someone who's barely ever worked and is 21 and is worried I'll never get a job if I graduate at 24, tbh. With regard to how they'd know - don't people generally put their secondary school education on their CV?


Generally, but seriously, it isn't an issue!

Stick your CV up on the CV Help forum and get some specific advice there, if you are that worried about how it looks.
Reply 17
Original post by post-grad-u-ate
Say your birthday was in September then you would be 19 when starting uni, 20 if having done a gap year!

then if you did a 4 year programme with a placement year, you would be 24, turning 25 at the end of summer and merely a few weeks after starting a graduate programme in July / August, with some starting in September to give you the summer to have some fun.

You shouldn't have any problems with your career as long as you can show why you did what you did when you did it so being realistic.. how much of a better uni do you think you will get in to with going to college? Probably not much, and although people assume the best universities are the obvious ones like Oxford and Cambridge when actually some specialisms are at lower ranked universities. Advertising for example, huge industry worth billions yet the best course for advertising is at London College for Communication, part of the University of the Arts. Somewhere like this might be much more suited for you than somewhere elitist and stuffy like Oxford.

You mention Politics and Economics.. well in the political realm is a lot about public relations and political consultancy / strategic communications / crisis management whatnot. There is a revolving door between government and the PR industry. LCC offers a great course in public relations or over at Cardiff there is Journalism, Communications and Politics and this a great mix of how the media has so much power to influence the world - take the shootings in the last few days and how the aspect of live-streaming, not just uploading a video but actually inviting the internet to be with when something crazy like that happens can have a huge impact of tens of thousands of people marching in protest all over the world.

Cardiff offers modules such as:

Introduction to Government and also Political Thought and Political Science,
Representations
Influencing Public Policy,
War Politics and Propaganda,
Citizen Media
The Making and Shaping of News
Communicating Causes
Elections in the UK
Spin and Unspun: Public Relations and the News Media

Cardiff is ranked 35th nothing spectacular but a good university and would open doors, so no point fighting for a better uni when you can do so well in other places as I have tried to demonstrate. The advertising course at LCC for example could have you working for Ogilvy & Mather in London and then on to New York! They recognise the prestige of the advertising course at LCC within the advertising industry.

The degree from Cardiff could get into newspapers, government, PR, and also within financial services so to build experience in all these areas would make your profile stronger and perspective on all of these collaborating industries.

This is so much more interesting and modern to studying PPE which has created a robotic governing class.

So this is to go to show that if you research and think of a clever way to start your career it could be really interesting! Entirely up to you but really doing your research might really help and finding out what you can do with what you've got so far would be good and how you can work with that.

Anything else just ask.


Thanks a lot for your advice. That does sound like a really interesting course but unfortunately I'm limited to Scottish unis for financial reasons.

I have a place at aberdeen but I would like to either go to Glasgow or St Andrews. Are people able to work in business/for NGO's with politics/IR degrees?
Original post by tagomago
Thanks a lot for your advice. That does sound like a really interesting course but unfortunately I'm limited to Scottish unis for financial reasons.

I have a place at aberdeen but I would like to either go to Glasgow or St Andrews. Are people able to work in business/for NGO's with politics/IR degrees?


Aberdeen is a great university, which it's ancient historical buildings, it would be more popular if it wasn't so tucked up in the furthest corner of the country. IR involves understanding the complex dynamics of countries, central to this is international economics, trade and diplomacy so multi-national companies would be interested such as the energy companies which is a huge industry in Aberdeen.

Aberdeen University offers IR joint with Economics which would be good for crossing between business and government roles.
Reply 19
Original post by post-grad-u-ate
Aberdeen is a great university, which it's ancient historical buildings, it would be more popular if it wasn't so tucked up in the furthest corner of the country. IR involves understanding the complex dynamics of countries, central to this is international economics, trade and diplomacy so multi-national companies would be interested such as the energy companies which is a huge industry in Aberdeen.

Aberdeen University offers IR joint with Economics which would be good for crossing between business and government roles.


That does look like a really good course. Thank you!
I have, however, been guaranteed an unconditional from glasgow for next year to study the same thing. I do prefer Glasgow as a city and also really like the uni. Would it be fine for me to go ahead and start uni next year?
I started the thread because I wanted to know if taking another year out (and finishing at 24) would compromise my career - that's what will ultimately help me decide.
Thanks again!

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