What exactly is your problem with benefits?

Much of this is to do with the number of programmes on TV about people who claim benefits. The public are inundated with constant images and commentary about the people at the bottom of the ladder who are portrayed to be lazy, feckless and draining the benefits system.
Fact is, there are millions of pounds of benefits left unclaimed by people.
Example: an 83 year old neighbour of mine I popped in to check on as we hadn't seen her for a few days had no heating on and it was January. She was lying in bed covered in coats and blankets. My grandson cooked something for her and took it round. Turns out she wasn't getting her annual Winter Fuel Payment of £200+ and hadn't had it for the previous year either., and there were other benefits she hadn't claimed for.

With the child one I don't think you should have kids unless you can afford to look after them (this is more aimed towards the bigger families who claim it's their "right" to have a big family. Well it's right that you pay for them then.

Like most people (thanks to the DWP) you're confused about what ESA is. ESA is for people who are UNABLE to work due to long term illness or disability.

Sorry but this is such an archaic view toward big families. Where did you get that they say they're entitled?

Also at the end of the day if they need coverage they need coverage. This "well you shouldn't have had em" attitude is just unacceptable because imagine going hospital or some public institution and the bureaucrat behind the computer tells you callously "well you shouldn't have, so bye-bye." What kind of country is that which can't even be arsed to support its own people? The 3rd world? lol And erm the only time I've a wee issue with child benefits is when they're minors but still it's better than leaving em to it on the streets with a baby crying!

Great, demographic crisis here we come!

Houses are too expensive and careers too demanding for middle class people to have more than 1 child these days or maybe 2 if lucky.

Someone has to be making up the numbers if the people "who can afford to pay for kids" actually can't afford to hit replacement rate.

I want a sports car but can't afford one. Should I be able to get government assistance to buy one?

Nice try but that's about your wants, not needs

Again I specified disability and employment, or coverage whilst looking for it

To trivialise those things and basic provisions with wanting a car isn't even baffling, it's just typical now

I have no issue with the vast amount of benefits, as you've rightly said, they all have their reasons and uses. My only trouble with them is how difficult it can be to get them for certain people who need them. I have a couple of friends who when they were healthy, did nothing but work to support themselves and their kids, however, he ended up being struck with ME, cause her to have to work up to 4 jobs at a time for several years.. Which was fine until she had a car accident, which triggered her Fibromyalgia! They're a proud couple and don't like the idea of "sponging off the state" (their words) but needs must. However it's taken them a very long time to be able to claim what they rightly deserve, as they both outwardly look healthy. Whereas I've worked with people with "physical disabilities" in the past, back troubles and the like, who have managed to lift boxes of 20+ coats with ease, and they've been on disability benefit, because they're deemed unable to do most forms of work..

Tl;dr, I have no issue with benefits, just how they're sometimes assessed.

So people need children?

And yes, its an extreme example and I completely agree there should be a safety net for people who's situation changes, but the notion that its automatic is a bit much. If you can't afford something, you don't get to have it. Personal responsibility.

What? Now you're digging. People need help for children, I put that in black and white. You want them on the streets?

This so far has been a couple people coming by to post their cliche anecdotal peeves and annoyances with benefits and claimants, not any sufficient counter to those who need it in general lol

Your anecdotes however true or false are mere speculations. You don't know their particular situations. Disability isn't just about immobility...medical issues are vast. Also your friend said she didn't even want the benefits so how is this relevant? Again how does this debunk the fact that people need help for their specific situations.

Some people do.

But you need to look at the why. You're willfully ignoring that simply because you've got a bee in your bonnet for whatever reason.

A lot of people don't need help - but still get the child benefits.
Some people need help because they aren't sensible enough to realise they can't afford to raise a child without help.



Now, frankly, it looks like you've just come here to spout your opinion and to ignore any comments. So I'm not going to bother engaging you anymore, you don't want a debate, you just want to shout that you're right.

The fact that the benefits system particularly at the application and assessment stage treats practically all claimants as fraudsters or fakes.

That once on a lot of benefits the goal is to shove people off them at all costs... Inc suicide deteriorating health etc.
Point being they don't do much to improve your life to help you so that once you come off the benefits you're able to live a better life rather than just exist.

Other people's uneducated and media misinformed impression of benefits claimants as scroungers, druggies etc. And as far as the ones that are those types of people, society has failed them and they've fallen through the net time and time again, who're we to judge rather than limit further damage to themselves and society.