New terror attack france many dead

The vast majority of Muslims who die violently are killed by other Muslims, in Muslim countries.

Care to name a country where Muslims are constantly oppressed by non-Muslims?

Or we can just descend into our own modern version of the medieval holy wars, is that what you would prefer?

Isn't time Muslims realise the bad influence their religion can have? Regardless of its goodness or badness, I think it's time for Muslims in the West to start a new sect or whatever that has non-Violence as its main creed, maybe then we'll be able to better filter the retarded murderers.

The only way to achieve this is to remove from the Quran all passages that can be interpreted as encouraging violence against those who refuse to submit to Islam. And accept that Muhammad was not the perfect role model and that he said and did some unacceptable things.However, no Muslim is going to agree to this, so the "misinterpretations" will continue.

It shows that his religion was the reason why he carried out the attack.

If someone shouted "Praise Jesus" I, even as a Christian, would admit that he was a Christian terrorist. But that doesn't really happen...

the playing dumb tactic doesnt the achieve the apologist agenda you seek.

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I don't think it does. Muslims mention the name of Allah when they do pretty much anything, be it when they're about to die, or simply taking an exam or eating a plate of food. It's just a common phrase they say all the time.

Even if the attack was religiously motivated, mentioning the name of Allah would be unsurprising.



I wouldn't say that makes the person a Christian terrorist, even if he was feeling particularly religious at the time, or even if his religion was the reason why he carried out the attack.


A terrorist is someone who's using threats of violence to coerce the public or the government into complying with some sociopolitical objective.

(For example, the murder of Lee Rigby, the killing of white police officers in Dallas etc. are acts of terrorism, because they attempt to force the establishment into pulling out of wars, or into sorting out police brutality against black people etc.)

What was this truck driver trying to coerce the government/the public into doing? What did he think he was punishing them for? Do we even know?

Are you still in denial? This was a terrorist attack. Not a single person is denying it. You can keep making excuses but this literally happens so many times- a Muslim terrorist says "Allahu Akbar" and then blows up/starts shooting/crashes something. We can be sure that this was a terror attack. Of course you can keep denying it but you're looking like you don't want to admit the truth for doing so with all the clues we have at the moment.

It is disgusting to me that they can just decide to murder hundreds of innocent people who have done nothing to them and have nothing against them.

I don't think it does. Muslims mention the name of Allah when they do pretty much anything, be it when they're about to die, or simply taking an exam or eating a plate of food. It's just a common phrase they say all the time.

Even if the attack was religiously motivated, mentioning the name of Allah would be unsurprising.



I wouldn't say that makes the person a Christian terrorist, even if he was feeling particularly religious at the time, or even if his religion was the reason why he carried out the attack.


A terrorist is someone who's using threats of violence to coerce the public or the government into complying with some sociopolitical objective.

(For example, the murder of Lee Rigby, the killing of white police officers in Dallas etc. are acts of terrorism, because they attempt to force the establishment into pulling out of wars, or into sorting out police brutality against black people etc.)

What was this truck driver trying to coerce the government/the public into doing? What did he think he was punishing them for? Do we even know?

you sounded as confused as you used to in the past - you are forgettig that aaprt from sociopoilitcal motivations some terrorist ( ie islamic, sikh, evangelical chritians etc,) may have some doctrinal influences that dictate their politics . i n the case of islamists these can be numerous in example, ie hatred of jewish state of israel, hatred of non muslim nation states, hatred of 'muslims' they dont regards as islamic, hatred of homosexuals etc etc. And islamist propoganda is one of the most propagated and widely disseminated. so commit an act of violence with these influences in mind will make it an islamist terrorist attack. hope that explains what is a rather simple concept for you

So which of these was it in this case then? (See bold)

All that's left is to identify what sociopolitical agenda he was trying to coerce the public/the government into fulfilling, and then I'll say "Yes okay, it was a terrorist attack".

Terrorism is illegal violence carried out to promote a particular agenda or ideology.
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Is a violent attack carried out by a Muslim under the impression (no matter how misguided) that they are somehow furthering a particular interpretation of Islam, "terrorism"?

could be combination of 2nd and 3rd. perhaps add other islamic edicts - angry at mixing of sexes, at women being uncovered. at alcohol being taken. Take your pick.

possibly though , upset that his precious Islamic Caliphate in iraq lost a major islamic leader and jsut wanted to kill some 'kuffar' today. the mindset of an islamist doesnt have to be more complex than that does it?

Terrorism doesn't have to be designed to coerce the government into fulfilling any kind of agenda. It can simply be designed to foment fear and distrust, thus inceasing the likelihood of civil unrest, which in turn can further the agenda of others outside the government.

And as we can all agree that this action has clearly heightened the climate of fear and distrust in France, you can no longer have any reservations in calling it "terrorism".

That is already happening, whether you and I like it or not.

French intelligence are saying that Europe and the Middle East are now essentially one theatre of war. That trucks driving into crowds mowing down pedestrians are an established tactic in the Middle East and we can expect car bombs in our cities attacking civilians soon too.

No-one is prepared to admit this, publicly, but the post war mass immigration of Muslims into Europe has been a disaster.

The Middle East is already a basket case. Soon we will be too. Marvellous.