Why are people supporting Erdogan and AKP?

He is the democratically elected leader and until he is voted out, he is in charge and is the leader with the mandate to rule. Freedom is the right to choose how you live your life and on what terms, freedom goes beyond merely conforming to the expectations of tsr member: RobML

To play devil's advocate, why should Turkey be secular? It's a majority Muslim country and it's only Europeans who seem to wish to erode their way of life.

Because a military coup would turn Turkey into the next Syria, do you really want something like that next to Greece? Europe would collapse.

It's important to remember that he was democratically elected so the Turkish people were fighting for their democratic right and were not entirely sure what the new military regime would have bought(even though it may have been more ideal). We also have to remember that we are looking at the situation from a foreign perspective and not as an actual Turkish person currently in Ankara or Istanbul viewing the military in the streets.

Like I said, I accept he is a legit ruler and shouldn't be removed by force, so that's basically a non-criticism.
The Turkish people had the freedom at particular point in time to vote Erdogan in, but if he continues in the way he's going they're going to be experiencing less and less of it.

The Ottoman Empire is long gone m8

yess! the OP is keep making threads that aren't funny and i just feel arghhhhhhhh

OP is a nice guy, but he should respect the choices other people make in the same way that brexit should be respected. Not everyone wants to be European.

and at what point has Erdogan pledged to dismantle democracy? Don't ever mistake democracy for secularism or liberalism, across the entire globe, most people hate the West and they hate Western culture.

He's going to establish a dictatorship - just you wait and see.

and at what point has Erdogan pledged to dismantle democracy? Don't ever mistake democracy for secularism or liberalism, across the entire globe, most people hate the West and they hate Western culture.

1. Its part of their modern history
2. This is the beginning of a dictatorship



So you'd rather an Islamic dictator and the rise of Erdogan to supreme power whereby he cannot be challenged? Erdogan is going to lead us towards the next Ottoman Empire and the military coup was his Reichstag Fire/Night of the Long Knives. He's now removed opposition, removed judges and will replace them with his own and he will have supreme rule over the military. The parallels between Turkey and Nazi Germany are incredibly alarming but people think its great. Naive people who followed the Nazi's thought it was great back then as well. Look at how that turned out.



Incorrect - absolutely incorrect - the first election in Turkey led to a hung parliament and due to the only combinations that could be made to a coalition were not Islamic, the two main parties decided against it - this led to another election - what did AKP do? They struck fear into the lives of people in the south and east of the country and through fear won the next election. That is not democracy at all. It is foul play.



The soldiers are now being punished by being forced to look at a picture of Erdogan. If they blink, something they will involuntary do, they are being beaten. Saddam Hussein used to use similar inhumane tactics.

Here's an opinion of a person from Turkey: https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/4t4dp9/the_coup_was_succesfull/?st=iqqsjg8b&sh=5dbcdcc1

Welcome to the Islamic Republic of Turkey: https://twitter.com/Homogenic__/status/754449849286848512

We must open up Europe to secular Turks and give them the free and democratic lives they deserve.

Incorrect - absolutely incorrect - the first election in Turkey led to a hung parliament and due to the only combinations that could be made to a coalition were not Islamic, the two main parties decided against it - this led to another election - what did AKP do? They struck fear into the lives of people in the south and east of the country and through fear won the next election. That is not democracy at all. It is foul play.



The soldiers are now being punished by being forced to look at a picture of Erdogan. If they blink, something they will involuntary do, they are being beaten. Saddam Hussein used to use similar inhumane tactics.

Here's an opinion of a person from Turkey: https://www.reddit.com/r/Turkey/comments/4t4dp9/the_coup_was_succesfull/?st=iqqsjg8b&sh=5dbcdcc1

Welcome to the Islamic Republic of Turkey: https://twitter.com/Homogenic__/status/754449849286848512

We must open up Europe to secular Turks and give them the free and democratic lives they deserve.

What did you expect? This isn't a game, this is taking your nation to the brink of civil war

It will be a dictatorship under the false pretences of a democracy.

When you pick up a machine gun and attempt to violently overthrow your government you are making a statement that you are willing to end the lives of those people you oppose. What did the Roman empire do to cowards and traitors?

It will be a dictatorship under the false pretences of a democracy.

When the east fails to conform to western expectations

[video="youtube;2Uj32C20JCA"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uj32C20JCA[/video]

The mass triggering

Should be "What did the Ottoman empire do to cowards and traitors?"


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Very funny, grow up.

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