France "must learn to live with terrorism" -French Prime Minister

Did Britain learn to live with IRA terrorism?

Algeria's population was 10% French and they were all deported back to France when Algeria got its independence.

France is about 10% Muslim, it would be possible to deport them back to North Africa. No Muslims = no terrorism . Unfortunately this will never happen and the end result will probably be civil war. Gun laws are pretty lax in France and they have a history of violent revolutions.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-07-15/french-pm-france-is-at-war-with-terrorists/

"Times have changed and we should learn to live with terrorism. We have to show solidarity and collective calm. France has been hit in its soul on the 14 July, our national day."

How can this guy be fucxing serious??

Has he just handed the country over to Front Nationale?

France isn't set apart from the rest of the world. IS are a global threat, and as a result they pose a threat to France.

What measures might those be? I'm going to guess close the borders, even though that would do very little, or more passport checks, because they definitely don't use fake passports These terrorists are a determined bunch, there's very little that can stop them short of acquiring as much knowledge as possible on their leaders and movements, and using that to predict likely attacks, and that's not going to stop everything - hence why we need to remain calm and learn to live with the risks as the French PM has said. Even more so given tackling the root of them isn't a job that can be done in a day.

What has that got to do with France? France could quite easily take numerous measures to reduce the risk of terrorism in its own country.

I'm not terribly sure how much you know about French politics. The country is already in a state of alert when it comes to terrorism. We're doing all we can.

If you have any better ideas, write to the Senate, or to Hollande himself. Until then, please don't act as though the country is being lax with its stance on terrorism - this is a nation in mourning - do you think we want any of this and are simply being to lazy to act?

If so, you are mistaken.

Fairly sure we took a number of measures to minimise the risk of being affected by an IRA attack, so yes?

1) Leave the EU, EEA and Schengen Area
2) Enforce strict border controls with military level checks at the point of entry
3) Raids on Mosques to root out extremist hubs and the closing down of faith schools
4) Raids on known terrorist targets within France and use it as a reason to export them if they are not French nationals
5) Introduction of deradicalisation facilities throughout the country
6) Put in place a new counter terrorism plan with higher security presence in key public places

So, there's a lot of things France can do in an attempt to combat terrorism. The notion that it must learn to live with it is ****ing ridiculous.

Yes, but there was never an acceptance that this was "normal".

The French problem is simply poor intelligence gathering.

If you keep bringing muslim into your country, then it's a sad fact you should be prepared for more terrorism. I'd sooner see something drastic done about it though.

And that's not what the French PM is saying - he's saying they need to stay calm and live with the risk of terrorism, not let it consume them but take sensible measures to not put themselves in undue danger.

1) Except that's not what is causing terrorism. The EU might be the big boogeyman to you, but the only one remotely relevant is Schengen, and terrorists aren't exactly going to stop because there's a border there.
2) Not going to keep out domestic terrorists, not going to stop others sneaking in. Amazingly most don't tend to walk up to the guardposts and declare their intents. They travel on fake passports and will of course avoid as much inspection as possible.
3) Because of course raiding mosques and victimising muslims won't disenfranchise a lot of muslims and open them up to more extremism?
4) And the French nationals?
5) Deradicalisation programmes will already exist.
6) And this plan will entail what exactly? Extra security won't stop attacks occurring, it just makes it easier to combat them and minimise their severity - which would still require us to stay calm and deal with the occurrence of terrorism.

1) Except that's not what is causing terrorism. The EU might be the big boogeyman to you, but the only one remotely relevant is Schengen, and terrorists aren't exactly going to stop because there's a border there.

2) Not going to keep out domestic terrorists, not going to stop others sneaking in. Amazingly most don't tend to walk up to the guardposts and declare their intents. They travel on fake passports and will of course avoid as much inspection as possible.

3) Because of course raiding mosques and victimising muslims won't disenfranchise a lot of muslims and open them up to more extremism?

4) And the French nationals?
5) Deradicalisation programmes will already exist.

6) And this plan will entail what exactly? Extra security won't stop attacks occurring, it just makes it easier to combat them and minimise their severity - which would still require us to stay calm and deal with the occurrence of terrorism.

Why are you apologising for ISIS?

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Its an ideological cancer. It moves around the world corrupting healthy cells and then grows like a tumour from within creating havoc and doing immense damage. At first it's benign and merely a presence in an otherwise healthy cell, then when the immune system lets its guard down it then starts to grow and cause modest disruption. After initial disruption it then launches attack after attack until it destroys the healthy cell.

I doubt if we were so destructive in our foreign policy then this would be happening. It's like the attacks by the IRA and then calling all the Irish and/or Catholics terrorists.

If France basically enforces a military police state it can keep people out.

3) Raids on Mosques to root out extremist hubs
5) Introduction of deradicalisation facilities throughout the country