How often do you view the Islamic Society?

I've spoken to the mods about it and they are fully aware of it. The fact that you are denying sectarianism only proves my point further. I have countless examples which I shall be presenting to the mods.

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I just have to say, a number of shia users have abandoned using the I-Soc, and may do not use it, out of the secterianism among some of its users towards shia muslims.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind the secterianism being promoted by some on the I-Soc.

I have been here for a number of years, and i swear by Allah:

1. Many users (not most, but many) have abused me, insulted me, some of them even asking for me to get booted out of the thread. Some of these users have even recognised just how badly they felt i was abused, they offered heart felt apologies.

2. Some of the most prominent users of the I-Soc have referred to me as a 'Rafidha', which when used by salafi's and secterians is a very vile and abusive word used to label shia muslims. Even after telling them to stop, they did not apologise and gloated about using it on other shia's.

3. A number of neutral, non secterian posts, which merely promote prophetic ahadith, Quran, etc, have been over the years without me provoking anyone, quoted, and i have been told to stop quoting deviant shia books again and again. When some salafi's quote the likes of ibn taymiyyah, and praise him, i have never decided to call them out.

4. There is definitely a gang mentality between some users on the I-Soc, who share their hatred of shia's, and will cluster together against me. I don't like to raise or bring up the issues again, but you have personally called me an online paid agent, and on the shia-sunni discussion thread, asked me if i read what i type, or input the first thing that comes into my head. Continually on the I-soc, you have sided with people like ideasforlife et al. Although you have shown kindness to me and far better manners than some of your friends here, there is no doubt in my mind your behaviour to me is because i am a shia muslim. You would not talk like this towards a sunni muslim.

5. When i asked for the Original Post, to have two clear headings, one for sunni resources, and one for shia resources, so people could by their own free will refer to each one, as this thread after all, is for all madhabs, and not the 'sunni islamic society', i was told the following by Ideas for life, who is a prominent member on the I-Soc, who has referred to me by the abusive nick-name 'rafidha', continually tried to provoke me by cursing my Ulema, Ayatullah Khamanei (ha) and i have had to endure bitterly so as to not refute or cause an argument, has refused to reply to my salams, and on several of his temporary accounts, has continually tried to provoke me.

Here is what he had to say about me when i requested equality in posting resources in the Original Post. Note, do take a look and see if anyone spoke up for me:





Instead of even once calling out IdeasforLife for this bigoted and secterian remark, you told me "this was a new low for you" - for asking brother Zamestaneh if a moderator could edit his post and add my links in, if he felt he could religious not do so.


I am merely speaking the truth. The level of secterianism among some users on the I-Soc at some points, has grieved me so much so, i could not emotionally cope , and left TSR altogether for a few months.


Brother Al Farhan, i will never ever forget the kindness you showed me in may'june when i was going through a very tough time. But i have to be open and fair here. Will you, condemn ideasforlife, for referring me as a Rafdiha, considering me not a brother in Islam, the bigoted post he has written in the i-soc, refusing to reply to my salams, and making several temporary accounts and posting secterian things in the I-Soc ?

My heart tells me you won't. You consider me a deviant, and ideasforlife your brother. But i would love to be proven wrong.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind the secterianism being promoted by some on the I-Soc.

I have been here for a number of years, and i swear by Allah:

1. Many users (not most, but many) have abused me, insulted me, some of them even asking for me to get booted out of the thread. Some of these users have even recognised just how badly they felt i was abused, they offered heart felt apologies.

2. Some of the most prominent users of the I-Soc have referred to me as a 'Rafidha', which when used by salafi's and secterians is a very vile and abusive word used to label shia muslims. Even after telling them to stop, they did not apologise and gloated about using it on other shia's.

3. A number of neutral, non secterian posts, which merely promote prophetic ahadith, Quran, etc, have been over the years without me provoking anyone, quoted, and i have been told to stop quoting deviant shia books again and again. When some salafi's quote the likes of ibn taymiyyah, and praise him, i have never decided to call them out.

4. There is definitely a gang mentality between some users on the I-Soc, who share their hatred of shia's, and will cluster together against me. I don't like to raise or bring up the issues again, but you have personally called me an online paid agent, and on the shia-sunni discussion thread, asked me if i read what i type, or input the first thing that comes into my head. Continually on the I-soc, you have sided with people like ideasforlife et al. Although you have shown kindness to me and far better manners than some of your friends here, there is no doubt in my mind your behaviour to me is because i am a shia muslim. You would not talk like this towards a sunni muslim.

5. When i asked for the Original Post, to have two clear headings, one for sunni resources, and one for shia resources, so people could by their own free will refer to each one, as this thread after all, is for all madhabs, and not the 'sunni islamic society', i was told the following by Ideas for life, who is a prominent member on the I-Soc, who has referred to me by the abusive nick-name 'rafidha', continually tried to provoke me by cursing my Ulema, Ayatullah Khamanei (ha) and i have had to endure bitterly so as to not refute or cause an argument, has refused to reply to my salams, and on several of his temporary accounts, has continually tried to provoke me.

Here is what he had to say about me when i requested equality in posting resources in the Original Post. Note, do take a look and see if anyone spoke up for me:





Instead of even once calling out IdeasforLife for this bigoted and secterian remark, you told me "this was a new low for you" - for asking brother Zamestaneh if a moderator could edit his post and add my links in, if he felt he could religious not do so.


I am merely speaking the truth. The level of secterianism among some users on the I-Soc at some points, has grieved me so much so, i could not emotionally cope , and left TSR altogether for a few months.


Brother Al Farhan, i will never ever forget the kindness you showed me in may'june when i was going through a very tough time. But i have to be open and fair here. Will you, condemn ideasforlife, for referring me as a Rafdiha, considering me not a brother in Islam, the bigoted post he has written in the i-soc, refusing to reply to my salams, and making several temporary accounts and posting secterian things in the I-Soc ?

My heart tells me you won't. You consider me a deviant, and ideasforlife your brother. But i would love to be proven wrong.

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Can you direct them to this poll then please, because so far no Shi'i has voted in the poll which would imply that there are not many with the demand to use the ISOC

Lol @Reformed selecting rarely/never

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Hmmm the effort and desire (may it be directly or indirectly) to shut down the ISOC... . So much interest towards this society is being shown. I can't believe it.

I am not sure about the ruling for these types of threads. Is one allowed to edit the OP whenever they want and how many times they want?

I don't really believe many shia users who have joined, and subsequently left TSR, or who do not really visit it, will be coming on simply to vote in this poll, and i say this with due respect. Many who are on TSR don't feel a connection to the I-Soc.

Although i am a regular member, and inshAllah wish to continue to be as regular a member as i can possibly be, i respectfully will decline from voting.

Hmmm the effort and desire (may it be directly or indirectly) to shut down the ISOC... . So much interest towards this society is being shown. I can't believe it.

I am not sure about the ruling for these types of threads. Is one allowed to edit the OP whenever they want and how many times they want?

Hmmm the effort and desire (may it be directly or indirectly) to shut down the ISOC... . So much interest towards this society is being shown. I can't believe it.

I am not sure about the ruling for these types of threads. Is one allowed to edit the OP whenever they want and how many times they want?

These things come and go. Not long ago a couple of ISOC members were fervently trying to shut down the Ex-Muslim Society.

I don't think anyone is trying to shut down the ISOC.

Yep.

The non-Muslims and Tawheed are trying very hard to destroy it (by changing it to how they want it).

Well Muslims have always ran Isoc and majority did as we saw fit and amended the OP (when we saw a need for it e.g. adding in Queen Cersei's post about no debate or TMG's reminders) . But it seems a minority wish to change it, a minority of 1 person (not included the self claimed non-Muslims ) ;p

Oh really. When was this?
I just recently got to know that society exists lol (idk might be because I did not notice any mention of it, even out of interest). I don't even know if anyone mentioned the society or even the atheist one on I-SOC either. I found the atheist one from the trending list once and have not visited again.

Hmm I feel that we should have like a vote system for only the members but where we can't reveal each other's vote. Idek if that would be possible. But then I feel some people will disagree as it may not work. I also feel that only info regarding Islam should be in the OP and nothing else eg politics etc and only info from the hadiths etc. But then idk how this will actually happen.

In terms of creating a new thread for sunni's exclusively, that is what the secterians want. They want to exclude other groups, and so to reinforce them as deviants. I am absolutely against splitting the I-Soc, and those users that can not learn to coexist, live in peace, and respect one another should be referred to the moderating team.

I believe there needs to be a secular moderator, who governs the I-soc, an atheist, or a non-muslim, who ensures every single user, be they a sunni or shia, feels safe, secure, and respected.

A couple of months ago this happened. Needless to say they failed.


Every poll has the option to make the voters anonymous

excuse my jibe - i essentially was having a little fun at the expense of some of the perhaps less enlightened muslims who thought on various threads that the islamic golden age saw muslims invent maths, algebra and calculus, which the rest of us know they did not, the y simply learnt it form pre islamic societies.


in terms of my views, i tend only to view the isoc when i am posting on it. and my posts have in general been more frequent when topical issues arise like in last few weeks/months etc that bring islam into the public forum. i think thats the same for many people