BREAKING - MPs vote to renew Trident weapons system

It's a shame that we can afford a nuclear defense system but we can't invest in desperately needed housing and supporting the most vulnerable in our society.

It's being used as we speak. Hence the word "deterrence".

And modern day terrorism is merely one type of threat to a nation. There are others. Hence why there are different weapon systems and different branches of the armed forces.

The second is somewhat subjective however i agree with more housing. Unfortunately, neither Labour nor the Tories seem especially ambitious there.

It's a figure that is a few percentage points higher than the government's £179bn estimate which is almost certainly an underestimate.

Japan doesn't have nuclear weapons , i wounder who they're doing.

Tell me , when we did we last nuclear weapons ?

Japan doesn't have nuclear weapons , i wounder who they're doing.

Every day when I turn on the news, it is clear why we need nuclear weapons. There is the threat of terrorist organisations, many countries at war or on the verge of war. North Korea and Russia have nuclear weapons and could use them at any time. We need a deterrent to prevent invasion from other countries. I hate the military and war and I wish Nagasaki and Hiroshima never happened. I hope we never have to use our bombs, but while our nation is under threat, we need a way to protect ourselves. One day, we may be in a position to get rid of trident, but the time is not now.

'Although Labour MPs were given a free vote, many used the occasion to attack Mr Corbyn, who is a longstanding opponent of nuclear weapons. The BBC understands that 60% of Labour's MPs voted in favour of Trident renewal.'

Sounds about right

The important term here is could , the former USSR had a nuclear weapons , this does not mean that they used them.

Japan doesn't have nuclear weapons , i wounder who they're doing.

Japan doesn't have nuclear weapons , i wounder who they're doing.

And included in that wild estimate are figures for the costs of, amongst other things, the wages and housing of the RN and RM personnel. Do you think that disappears if we don't have the deterrence?

It includes the costs of ancillary equipment that's needed to operate the subs and bases. Equipment that would still be needed regardless of whether they were used on those particular subs or those particular bases. So you think those costs disappear if we don't have these 4 subs?

The only capital cost we should realistically look at is the ~£31bn for replacing the subs. And that spread over their lifetime is a pittance.

The important term here is could , the former USSR had a nuclear weapons , this does not mean that they used them.

Most countries do not have Nuclear weapons , the UK is an exception alongside 8 other nations which have Nuclear weapons

Just think of what all that money could of been spent on but nah lets spend it on a defense system which is never used and ill equipped to deal with modern day terrorism.

MPs have backed the renewal of the UK's Trident nuclear weapons system, voting 472 to 117 in favour in Parliament.

The vote approves the manufacture of four replacement submarines at an estimated cost of £31bn.

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon told MPs nuclear threats were growing around the world and Trident "puts doubts in the minds of our adversaries".

Labour was split over the issue with many of its MPs defying leader Jeremy Corbyn and backing the government.

You're telling me that £148bn out of that £179bn is essentially for maintenance?

The risk of initiating a nuclear war through miscalculation, mistakes or terrorism are vastly greater than any risk of an intentional nuclear war.

MPs have backed the renewal of the UK's Trident nuclear weapons system, voting 472 to 117 in favour in Parliament.

The vote approves the manufacture of four replacement submarines at an estimated cost of £31bn.

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon told MPs nuclear threats were growing around the world and Trident "puts doubts in the minds of our adversaries".

Labour was split over the issue with many of its MPs defying leader Jeremy Corbyn and backing the government.

Most countries do not have Nuclear weapons , the UK is an exception alongside 8 other nations which have Nuclear weapons

Just think of what all that money could of been spent on but nah lets spend it on a defense system which is never used and ill equipped to deal with modern day terrorism.