Universities are already increasing their fees above £9000

Anyone can do a second part-time STEM degree and get a tuition fee loan to pay for it; it doesn't matter if you've already done a STEM degree. But you won't be able to get a maintenance loan.

But you said that medicine wasn't vocational and that you could identify that by the fact that you got a bachelors degree in the end, not an NVQ or the like.

Regardless, the fact remains that a vocational degree is one that trains you in skills that lead directly lead to a vocation. Medicine included. It's high entry requirements mean nothing, save the fact it's immensely popular.

Because you keep banging on about it...

So let's see what an actual university medical lecturer says:
"You might think that the teaching content in a professional vocational degree like medicine...."
http://www.ed.ac.uk/staff/teaching-matters/features/engaging-the-professional-community-in-teaching-me

Or how about Aberdeen's prospectus:
"Medicine is a vocational course, one in which the student is trained to become a medical professional."
http://www.abdn.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/degree-programmes/796/A100/medicine-5-years/

Apology accepted

Medicine?

Unlikely, she wants to study entomology so probably something biological

Zoology? Cool. Wish her luck from some random TSR support team member

Tuition fee loans will be increased in line with fees - the only impact on the increase on applicants will be that they'll be repaying their student loans for a longer period of time.

The impact will be on someone like me, who as a grad going on to do medicine, has to pay for fees up front. No tuition fee loan for me. and I will already be struggling to pay £9000. If I have to pay £10000 in my fourth year I think I will be really struggling.

Of course I do but like most grad entry medics you are limited in choice, have to sit entry exams, and have to apply based on chance of entry. Some universities are doing away with their 4 year courses.

I applied for 2 four year grad courses and 2 five year grad entry undergrad places.


I got a place on one of the 5 year year courses. I couldn't turn down a place on a 5 year course in hope that I would get a place on a 4 year course next time. But the 5 year grad places are self funded.

Not sure if already mentioned but I got an email from Univeristy of Surrey on 29th of June which stated they intend to raise fees to the new amount. It is my insurance choice and I'm pretty worried about it. Clearly majority of universities who can will raise fees and it will only get worse.