Corbyn not a leader? Why?

But that support is insignificant when compared to the electorate as a whole, in that it won't shift the balance of power. No matter how you try to spin it, the overall electorate is no where near as left wing as Corbyn is so he can't possibly win. It doesn't matter how readily you can get your message out, if most of the population disagree with the message in the first place it will be ineffective at converting a significant enough number of people to sway the election in Labour's favour. If Labour want a chance at winning then they have to move their platform more towards the right, regardless of whether the die-hard Corbynites want to or not. Surely you'd prefer a chance to actually get in office and implement right-of-Corbyn but left-of-Tory policies than another Tory majority government, particularly one as right-wing as May's cabinet?

183,000 people have joined the Labour Party in the last 48 hours. Membership now well over 500,000. Whatever you think of Corbyn he's rallied more people to join a political party than any other politician- surpassing Tony Blair in the 90's. Any other politician for any other party and that would be national news. It's not, why?

Parties don't win elections by rallying their membership. Congrats he's mobilised less than a 1% of the voting public, what about the rest? Labour is behind the tories in the polls despite their leader stepping down and a new pm back tracking on their key commitments. So far all he has succeeded in doing is dividing labour and making its opposition ineffective.

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183,000 people have joined the Labour Party in the last 48 hours. Membership now well over 500,000. Whatever you think of Corbyn he's rallied more people to join a political party than any other politician- surpassing Tony Blair in the 90's. Any other politician for any other party and that would be national news. It's not, why?

Corbyn is not really left more centre. It is just the Tories have moved further right and 'new' Labour followed them. If people actually get to hear about his policies rather than the mainstream media spun rhetoric they may yet find they are in tune with him. Pre judging electability based on old prejudices is not necessarily right. Given the chance I think he has a very good chance of winning.

It is the membership that rally the voters, during elections, and he has 600,000 of them now.. He is behind in the polls because the PLP and media are attacking him, and the public are not getting to hear his policies. He did not start the coup, so he is not the divisive one.

Corbyn is not really left more centre. It is just the Tories have moved further right and 'new' Labour followed them. If people actually get to hear about his policies rather than the mainstream media spun rhetoric they may yet find they are in tune with him. Pre judging electability based on old prejudices is not necessarily right. Given the chance I think he has a very good chance of winning.

Given the chance I think he has a very good chance of winning.

Ignoring his unelectability in England, the Labour party can't win a majority while the SNP holds basically all the Scottish seats. Corbyn's policies won't win Scottish voters back, so Labour cannot win a General.

He has as good a chance of winning a GE as he would have of winning the National Lottery after not buying a ticket

You're kidding, right? Corbyn is no where near the centre, that's the territory of Blair. People have heard his policies and almost all but his personal fan club of supporters don't like them, his position on Trident is opposed even within the Labour Party, never mind the wider electorate. I also read that he wants to introduce a 'maximum wage' which is incredibly left-wing and will just result in all of the talented graduates leaving this country to go somewhere where they'll be better paid, such as Germany or the USA. I'm not prejudging him based on old prejudices, I'm looking at the policies he's advocating today and they are not at all in line with the general electorate.

And yet, local parties are complaining the newbies aren't doing much in terms of volunteering. Whilst other members seem to be chilling on him slightly, the divides in the party go as far as the local level.

I think you have named two which are not popular with the PLP and establishment rather than the wider electorate. I think any maximums if they ever got anywhere would be well above anything but a very few would ever achieve, though I think he was talking about ratios of inequality rather than maximums. Opposition to nuclear weapons is quite popular and would be more so if presented truthfully.

As for the maximum wage, I agree that equality has to be addressed but I think higher taxation on large-earners (i.e. those earning hundreds of thousands/millions, not the middle classes in the £50k-150k range) is a better policy because at least then public funds would increase and could be spent on improving infrastructure or healthcare, or whatever, and talented graduates wouldn't be discouraged from staying in the UK.