Muslim and starting to doubt my religion

you're right: it is permissible to marry someone once they've reached puberty, but only if there is valid consent between both parties. Without consent it would just be a forced marriage which is universally unacceptable.

I have noticed though that non-muslims maybe mainly atheists come like there is no tomorrow on threads realted to islam but not with other religions. Quite interesting actually. If they are truly fair they would do the same for other religions and take their scriptures literally without looking at the context too.

So, child marriage is acceptable in Islam.

And you think a 9 year old can consent to marriage and the consequences of marriage?

Sorry, but in no other thread would you have 3 other users justifying child marriage. It won't happen.

This is the 3rd Muslim user in ONE THREAD, that is talking about child marriage with me.

So, if you don't see there is a problem, then I cannot help you.

I fail to see how it is a child marriage to begin with. When is an individual considered a child? The definition of a child is: 'a young human being below the age of puberty' Did I not just specify that marriage in islam has to occur after both parties have reached puberty?.

It really depends on whether she has reached puberty, ( I don't know any 9 year olds that have gone through puberty so it would be an instant no if she hadn't )

if she has reached puberty at 9, then I as her guardian need to assess whether she is competent and mature enough to make a decision for herself. A 9 Year old in most cases is not competent in making life impacting decisions like that.

So no, I wouldn't allow my 9 year old (who has somehow gone through puberty in this day and age) to marry if I deem her incompetent in making decisions for herself.

You're a med student yourself you should get the gist of where I'm coming from.

As far I have read, the answers are clearly given to you but I don't think you are understanding them. You are misusing the word "child" a bit too much to justify your reasonings or more like it seems that you want to be seen as the wise one. Sorry but I rest my case here. I have read from both sides.

I am not sure what this has to do with Islam itself and your objections to it - rather that shows a flaw within the people themselves which I agree with you on. People should strive to understand the Quran.

Well, I am using the one defined by the UN:

The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines child as "a human being below the age of 18 years unless under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier"

The difference between Adult and Child is one about legal responsibility as opposed to biology.

So, that means, if Dad thinks that his 9 year old is "competent" enough to be married off then it is OK?

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Islam is a religion of peace

can i ask why islams main book was then revealed in a dialect of arabic so confusing and also rhetorical, that most muslims cant actually
understand it properly ( if your argument is most ppl mis-interpret it) . id guess 99% of muslims on tsr dont fully understand it either - how are they supposed to follow it properly? Did mohammed actually mean for it to reach them ?

I don't think she's real. Shes trying to make her religion look oppressive to her. Heres are some things you haven't considered. The husband's duty is to love, clothe, provide, show care, speak softly, comfort, compliment and love his wife. He is religiously obliged to satisfy his wife in bed regardless of whether he has been satisfied himself and even after reaching orgasm. He has to respect her rights and treat her body with respect - he isn't allowed to have sex with her before foreplay, he isn't allowed to force himself onto her. He isn't allowed to engage is anal sex = bad for health, unhygienic and painful. He isn't allowed to have her sex with her during her periods. Sounds very oppressive to me.

My advice for dealing with this is to ask yourself one simple question regarding every contentious issue.

Does this make more sense as the work of the infallible, omniscient, omnipotent, all just, all merciful creator of the universe and all life within it - or does it make more sense as the work of 7th century Arab men?

Answer that question honestly and sincerely to yourself, and everything will become clear.

Salam
Feel free to PM me and I can try and help as a fellow Muslim sister

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I'm simply debunking her claim that Islam is somehow oppressive towards her or women in general. Quite clearly it isn't if the same rules apply to men as well.

All the points I made in OP, I have done lots of background research on them, what's disheartening is everything I said is what the majority of Muslim scholars agree on. People say you should make sacrifices for your religion. But is it always women that have to make majority of the huge sacrifices? How does that make Islam equal? It seems the only value a woman is given in Islam is as a mother.

There are so many contradictions. On one hand "there's no compulsion in religion". But on the other hand, if you decide to leave the religion you should be executed. This is supported in the hadiths and Quran. How is that a just and merciful God?

The other thing is that when I'm down I enjoy listening to music, it makes me happy, thoughtful, eases stress or reflective. But music apparently is also forbidden. I understand filthy or vulgar music being banned but apparently music is haraam even instruments. So now when I listen to music I just feel guilty for enjoying it. It seems everything enjoyable is not allowed. What kinda life is that? There may be a heaven and hell. But don't forget we only live this earthly life once and no one really knows what's there after death. No one can say for certain what's coming next. I do believe we as humans need guidelines and rules, it's a good thing but why can't we enjoy our life on Earth without feeling guilty and having so many restrictions placed upon us, as long as we're being sensible what harm will it do. I admit I still need to seek deeper knowledge on this topic but from what I've read,the vast majority of scholars believe is that it is prohibited particularly songs that make you want to dance.

Even dr.nakir, TSR saviour agrees that sex slaves are permissible, I just watchec his video on YouTube. Don't you consider that rape? Why would God allow such a thing? How is that peaceful? Why are there so many contradictions, we can't even agree on a date for Eid.

How many people blindly follow a religion they don't even understand. How many followers in the subcontinent even understand Arabic? They following what they've been told by imams and their parents. They couldn't translate a line of the Quran apart from maybe the kalima if you asked them. They reciting and reciting something in Arabic and they don't even know what is being said.

Quran (53:27) - "Those who believe not in the Hereafter, name the angels with female names." Angels are sublime beings, and would therefore be male. Is that not sexist?

I have noticed though that non-muslims maybe mainly atheists come like there is no tomorrow on threads realted to islam but not with other religions. Quite interesting actually. If they are truly fair they would do the same for other religions and take their scriptures literally without looking at the context too.

Islam is more about justice. As a woman I can't be ignorant and say we should be absolutely equal to men, and vice versa. If I do then I expect no gender segregation at all, not even the toilets. Also with clothing.

I think it is best if you do go talk to a scholar or imam

So it is better to go ask someone knowledgeable