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Original post by Uni12345678
I have no idea if this is correct or not, but...

EDIT : sorry just realised the last part is a little wrong , b squared - 4ac = -2 squared - 4(1)(-root10) so should be 4 + 4root10 so still 2 real roots but not 16 + 4root10


Wouldn't it be x2(x2)2=10x(x2)=±10x^2(x-2)^2=10 \rightarrow x(x-2)=\pm\sqrt{10}? Then you continue while taking into account two cases in which it's either negative and positive roots of 10. The one you used shows 2 real roots and the other will show that the other 2 are imaginary.
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Isn't it a necessity that the number of roots = the degree of the equation?
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Original post by oShahpo
Isn't it a necessity that the number of roots = the number of solutions to the equation?


Since roots and solutions are more or less precisely the same thing, then yeah. Not sure why you're asking though.
Original post by RDKGames
Wouldn't it be x2(x2)2=10x(x2)=±10x^2(x-2)^2=10 \rightarrow x(x-2)=\pm\sqrt{10}? Then you continue while taking into account two cases in which it's either negative root 10 and positive root 10? The one you used shows 2 real roots and the other will show that the other 2 are imaginary.


Yeah sorry I forgot to include negative root10, you're right
The answer is still 2 real roots because the other two would be imaginary
Thanks :smile:
Original post by Zacken
Since roots and solutions are more or less precisely the same thing, then yeah. Not sure why you're asking though.


The answer must obviously be 4 then, without needing to find the roots.
*EDIT: I meant the number of roots = the degree of the equation. Apologies.
Is the number of roots necessarily equal the degree of the equation?
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Original post by oShahpo
The answer must obviously be 4 then, without needing to find the roots.


"How many real roots..."
Original post by oShahpo
Isn't it a necessity that the number of roots = the number of solutions to the equation?


Yes, in other words, how many times would the graph cross the x axis
There are different types of roots and generally only ask real roots rather than imaginary (like root negative 10 is imaginary because you cannot square root a negative number)
Original post by oShahpo
The answer must obviously be 4 then, without needing to find the roots.
*EDIT: I meant the number of roots = the degree of the equation. Apologies.
Is the number of roots necessarily equal the degree of the equation?


Yes, but the question asks for real roots so we need to take into account how many are imaginary and how many real out of all those that there are.
Original post by oShahpo
The answer must obviously be 4 then, without needing to find the roots.
*EDIT: I meant the number of roots = the degree of the equation. Apologies.
Is the number of roots necessarily equal the degree of the equation?


What is the degree of the equation? Sorry
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Original post by Bath~Student
Lovely - all correct.


Nope, might want to read more carefully next time.
Original post by RDKGames
Yes, but the question asks for real roots so we need to take into account how many are imaginary and how many real out of all those that there are.


Oh, I see. Missed that bit. Thanks.
Btw, do you know the proof for this statement? Do you have a link or something?
Original post by Uni12345678
What is the degree of the equation? Sorry


Degree of the polynomial is the highest exponent. The question has a polynomial of degree order 4.
Original post by Uni12345678
Yes, in other words, how many times would the graph cross the x axis
There are different types of roots and generally only ask real roots rather than imaginary (like root negative 10 is imaginary because you cannot square root a negative number)


Sorry I mistyped, I fixed my comment though.
Original post by Zacken
Nope, might want to read more carefully next time.


ahh, it's always the subtleties with me.
Original post by Zacken
Nope, might want to read more carefully next time.


Ahahahahha burn
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Original post by oShahpo

Is the number of roots necessarily equal the degree of the equation?


Yes, as long as the coefficients of the polynomial are real, then the Fundamental theorem of Algebra forces every nnth degree polynomial to have nn roots in C\mathbb{C}, it all falls out from C\mathbb{C} being the algebraic closure of R\mathbb{R} but the proof(s) uses relatively advanced concepts.
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Reply 36
Original post by Uni12345678
Ahahahahha burn


That said, I like your method (once fixed) very much. Good on you for spotting it.
Original post by RDKGames
Degree of the polynomial is the highest exponent. The question has a polynomial of degree order 4.


Oh right thanks so is that always the same as the total number of roots (including both real and imaginary) ?
Original post by Zacken
That said, I like your method (once fixed) very much. Good on you for spotting it.


Thank you :smile: feel clever today loll💁🏻
Original post by Uni12345678
Oh right thanks so is that always the same as the total number of roots (including both real and imaginary) ?


Yes the degree equals the total number of roots; real + imaginary. But as Zacken stated, the coefficients need to be real, which they are in this case and many others.

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