Grammar schools to return

Really happy. I got into grammar schools and think the system is fantastic, a real-life changing opportunity.

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Now think about how it is for people who don't get in.

The thing is compared to other countries our school standards are slipping and why should intelligent students be held back by less able students. For instance if their were more grammar schools my local one wouldn't be quite so harsh on requirements to get in.

Fill me in guys, how can there have been a ban on grammar schools when grammar school obviously still exist?

Fair enough. Pretty sure if the ban is lifted its not like people will jump to establish hundreds of such schools & it would enable more students to attend such schools if a few more opened.

The only issue I see with them is the price tag.

A year at a grammar school in tuition fees + any other fees is on average more than a year at uni. That's pretty ridiculous if you ask me. Not every single bright and very clever student comes from a family that can possibly afford that. So something should be done about that. Whether the fees are in place or not, the schools are still competitive due to the tests. It's the money that sometimes locks out the ones who cannot afford it.

Fair enough. Pretty sure if the ban is lifted its not like people will jump to establish hundreds of such schools & it would enable more students to attend such schools if a few more opened.

The only issue I see with them is the price tag.

A year at a grammar school in tuition fees + any other fees is on average more than a year at uni. That's pretty ridiculous if you ask me. Not every single bright and very clever student comes from a family that can possibly afford that. So something should be done about that. Whether the fees are in place or not, the schools are still competitive due to the tests. It's the money that sometimes locks out the ones who cannot afford it.

It only exists in the Berkshire and Buckinghamshire area only! There are about 5 grammar schools in my area.

Theresa May is set to remove the ban on grammar schools.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/theresa-may-to-end-ban-on-new-grammar-schools/ar-BBvkxT1?li=BBoPRmx

Are you happy or angry

Now think about how it is for people who don't get in.

The only issue I see with them is the price tag.

Heya. The grammar "near" me is an independent one with a £10.5k/year price tag. It's a joke - and all I can see is eventually a similar situation.

Heya. The grammar "near" me is an independent one with a £10.5k/year price tag. It's a joke - and all I can see is eventually a similar situation.

I got the top results in my state primary, and later the top female results in my state high school. I had a boring miserable time, same as you, surrounded by people of mixed abilities and with teachers that didn't push me. So I really understand where you're coming from, but seeing all these changes surrounding academies etc, it just makes me think we'll end up with a load more fee charging schools that grossly limit access. If they can absolutely guarantee that any new school will remain 100% free forever then sure I'm behind it. Otherwise it'll just exacerbate the problem

Fill me in guys, how can there have been a ban on grammar schools when grammar school obviously still exist?

They now only exist in name. The people in them are not the most intelligent or a select few, it's anyone who applies and there is space for. E.g. under old grammar schools you had an exam to decide whether you went to a grammar school with other high achievers (e.g. pupils predicted mainly A* to B grades) or lower performing pupils (predicted mostly lower than B grades.) This was useful to help the higher achieving students achieve their maximum potential whilst non-grammar schools were for less able students and were better at helping them achieve these grades. It's a bit like maths sets in school so you have groups of people with similar abilities learning together so no-one feels left out because they don't understand the topic or already know it. The ban also prevented new grammar schools from being opened.

They now only exist in name. The people in them are not the most intelligent or a select few, it's anyone who applies and there is space for. E.g. under old grammar schools you had an exam to decide whether you went to a grammar school with other high achievers (e.g. pupils predicted mainly A* to B grades) or lower performing pupils (predicted mostly lower than B grades.) This was useful to help the higher achieving students achieve their maximum potential whilst non-grammar schools were for less able students and were better at helping them achieve these grades. It's a bit like maths sets in school so you have groups of people with similar abilities learning together so no-one feels left out because they don't understand the topic or already know it. The ban also prevented new grammar schools from being opened.