Muslim women are the "least successful group in society" report finds

You are not going to make much of a lawyer if you use anecdotal evidence like that in any court of law...

Because, she is muslim?

Because, she is muslim?

Projection. My family is doing this ergo most families probably do this.

You're a liar you never used to. Why lie?
How you gonna lose an amateur licence for street fighting, this would only happen to pro's which you obviously aren't.

Oh boy! Another ignorant. Someone else made this similar argument as you. And, guess what I think it is not very well thought out as everything would be different in a court of law, genius How does my comment on a student forum correlate to being in a court? Oh dear! oh dear!

I am a Pakistani (the country which is thought to be Islamic). I would not let anyone oppress me and if someone does, trust me I would speak against it. I do realise there are some problems like I said, but muslim women are speaking out for themselves and in fact are studying to become successful. Hence, I called the study bogus but ok.

No because she is conceited, ignorant, brash, illogical, lying, and plain unfriendly.

And says a lot about you, that I have the attitude "Muslim = unfriendly".

But hey, you guys love playing the victim card, so I guess it's understandable.

Probably because I am a Muslim, but it's okay I am used to this kind of behaviour.

No because she is conceited, ignorant, brash, illogical, lying, and plain unfriendly.

And says a lot about you, that I have the attitude "Muslim = unfriendly".

But hey, you guys love playing the victim card, so I guess it's understandable.

This is due to the Western view that every woman must work, and that anything else is shameful.

I'm White and my parents are radical left-wingers, father is a hard Atheist who hates tradition and the Church and mother is a feminist.


I agree that the West is the best place in terms of living standards, but at the same time this is not because of social liberalism, social liberalism is a luxury we can afford as a result of economic success, it's not the cause of economic success. If there were a serious famine tomorrow, most Westerners would not hack it nearly as well as someone from the mountains of Afghanistan or a Berber nomad.


The best places imo are places such as Japan and Korea where they obviously protect the rights of women, but have a culture of duty to others and family responsibility whilst also having developed economies.

No she's not, you're a salty and mean-spirited virgin boy raving on the internet, go buy a fedora, it would suit you.

It is very wrong to judge a Muslim woman by an arbitrary Western standard, if the discussion only said they have lower rates of earnings it would be acceptable, but to write them off as unsuccessful is nonsense.

It's not really a choice though is it?

If you're a women born into a culture that at best discourages female attainment and ambition, and at worst flat-out denies it and abuses women, there's a good chance you're not really getting to make your own life decisions are you?

After all if you're born a slave, raised a slave, then it's not going to be terribly surprising if you're going to be thinking and acting like a slave in adulthood.

Thanks for acknowledging that you have no proper argument. At least you can admit that much, more than the other girl manages.

Not a Muslim, my background if anything would probably surprise you. I've always naturally felt that Western liberalism for all the comforts it brings us leaves people soulless and dead inside.

EDIT: On the other side of this, the danger with traditional cultures is that it leaves women open to abuses of power by cruel men, so it's not as if I am saying Trad Con societies are perfect of that the West is totally flawed.

LOL! Someone seems a bit triggered.

Why would I go there? Just because I am muslim? And, a woman? You are trying to make a point that I should go live in a muslim country? Because, I am muslim?

Well, are we reffering to countries or muslim women? I think this article is about muslim women in UK. Also, if you actually read the article. She was discriminated against, in Manchester because of her headscarf. Does it show anywhere that she was held back by a muslim man or her family? No.