The I-SOC (Islamic Society) XIII

If you are trying to design a factory to make a particular chemical, you don't just get some random person off the street to design it for you do you? Neither do you go look for 1 book on Chemical Engineering Design and then go and design it either do you? You wouldn't even ask someone to design it who doesn't have the right qualifications but claims to knowledge. You would only go to the person certified to do the design to make sure they do it right because they will not just know about the right way to design that process, but they will also know and understand things such as how that plant may affect other actions in the near area or what they need to do specifically for your case.

Similarly, you can't just ask some random person on the street to interpret the Holy Quran. This is a book which even the Arabs (who regarded themselves as the kings of poetry and beautiful language) were astonished by. They would read the Holy Quran and would be blown away by its' beauty. How can you expect someone who only knows a little bit about Arabic or only knows about how to translate word for word but doesn't understand the meaning to give you an accurate understanding of what is being said. This is why there are commentaries on the Holy Quran, written by scholars who have studied it their whole lives. These scholars are the ones who can begin to comprehend and explain the meaning of the Holy Quran. So if you want to learn what Allah (SWT) is saying in the Holy Quran, look for the commentary of a respected scholar and read that, not just the translation of the Arabic.

While having one peaceful interpretation laid down by scholars which every single Muslim followed would be excellent, in practice this is not possible. There are about 1.6 billion Muslims on the earth (I believe? Correct me if not) and there will always be people who would disagree with said interpretation or perhaps even be unaware of the existence of this interpretation. Therefore we are left with something which has a fundamental flaw and from which extremist ideas can spread.

I have some other questions which I have been pondering. I wonder, what are the views on homosexuality from people in this thread? Or more specifically do people believe that homosexuality is a choice? If you believe that it is not a choice then clearly Allah must be cruel, since he created all homosexual people and it is not a choice, then he has put them on this earth doomed to enter the fires of hell for eternity no matter what they do.

On the contrary if you believe that it is a choice and people have the ability choose to be aroused by a member of the same sex, then you believe that these people purposefully choose to make their lives harder? It is a fact that some Muslims are gay and imagine how hard it must be for them thinking of the fires awaiting them when they die, or even on this earth, the reaction of their families, why would they choose this?

My last question concerns myself. Although I do not believe in Paradise or in hell (I think they are just excellent indoctrination tools) I know people here do, it is simply in my nature (the way Allah made me) to question things for which there is no hard evidence. I simply could not be a fully fledged believer in Islam even if I wanted to unless I saw a supernatural miracle. Therefore I ask has the God which you believe in created me to be consigned to hell?

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

I've reported you to the Community Team for this comment and the one on the previous page. It is not OK and there is nothing jokey about wishing the murder and massacre of other human beings by fierce animals. And you may also want to get your facts right: Jews are monotheists, not pagans.

I will be monitoring this thread closely from now on and reporting any comments like the aforementioned.

Not older ones Cubs. So that they are friendly then can be controlled by them and then they can actually kill the Jew/Zionists people. And thanks for actually taking this seriously.

lol how old are you, are you Arab ?

I was talking about the war in Palestine. Sorry for the inconvenience

Afaik you would only be sinning if you carried out homosexual acts.
Every person has their own test which comes in different forms e.g. some are tested with disability, loss of loved one etc.
To attain paradise you must not give into temptations, whether it's money, men, women etc. Overcoming these may not be easy, but getting into paradise isn't easy.

If there was a miracle or God revealed himself, there would be no atheist/agnostic in this world which kinda defeats the purpose of believing don't you think?

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Jews are not pagans they are people of the book and worship Allah but call him something different and pray different.

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Though you have a point, even that on it's own will not convince people, it's literally futile for them, unless they make a conscious decision to believe, then it becomes clear to them. Just have a look at the children of Israel.
Allah has mentioned in the Quran that even if Allah were to show those people the fields of paradise they'd still reject Allah and claim it to be some sort of illusion.

Something to help you.
I still need to do organise some Charity events. Been thinking about for ages.

41:16 shoot

Join a local charity

havent seen anyone comment so thought id mention saudi led bombing campaign in yemen re started today , carpet bombing sanaa,
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-yemen-war-bombing-civilian-deaths-peace-talks-collapse-a7180531.html