Tom daley only worthy of Bronze because

He has spent too much time on social media posing his narcissm instead of training for the very thing that got him famous in the first place.

If you had actually watched his diving he was pretty much spot on. He was almost flawless; the only problems came from his synchro with his partner (considering they only got together in October they're doing damn good) and his partner kicking up a couple of larger splashes.

So why don't you stop criticising one of the best athletes in the world because he's capitalising on his well deserved fame. You absolute melon.

He has spent too much time on social media posing his narcissm instead of training for the very thing that got him famous in the first place.

Lol come on. Diving is such a niche sport and he's not even in the top couple in it.

To be in the top ten and at the Olympics is incredible.

To be in the top ten and at the Olympics is incredible.

no he is not Do you even know what the principal of the Olympics is?
no you're probably going to say that its so that athletes can show off or something else completely false

But his competition is very limited. Being the third best footballer in the world is vastly more impressive than being the third best diver (cue football diving jokes).



The point is to win and be known as a great athlete. Please don't spout of the cliche 'values' of the Olympics


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The point is to win and be known as a great athlete. Please don't spout of the cliche 'values' of the Olympics
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The point is to represent your country and to inspire a new generation into sport
now stfu and respect athletes who do this

Arguably diving requires more skill than your typical football match but that aside, Daley has consistently placed highly in his sport from such a young age. Don't try to diminish his achievements.

Lol at the miserable, bitter folks on here downplaying an Olympic bronze medal. These are the types of people who have achieved nothing and they get their kicks by downplaying others successes. To get any Olympic medal is a phenomenal achievement. Well done Tom and Dan.

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Great idea, let's celebrate losing


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And how many Olympic medals have you won? It's one thing when Olympic Champions like Michael Johnson come out with arrogant stuff like that, but it's another when a student on TSR from their armchair/ bed comes out with it.
If winning bronze makes him a loser, what does that make you?
I really don't get this American nonsense. Yes obviously winning is best and the aim, but to get any sort of Olympic medal is a phenomenal achievement.

Diving is niche, sure. But to be the third best at any sport is fantastic. I watched the final and the Chinese pair were ridiculously good and miles ahead, but I think they had been a pair for many years whereas Dan and Tom had only done it for 9 months or so. Tom also goes in the individual and has a shot at the gold there, we will see.

Yes, you can look at second as being 'the first loser' and third as being 'the second loser' from the comfort of your armchair. But for someone to win any Olympic medal in anything is fantastic. How many Olympic medals have you won?

It just makes me laugh to see people on here who will never achieve anything of note in sports to be diminishing the achievements of others who are winning medals.

Go and win some Olympic gold medals and then you're allowed to start looking down on bronze medalists. I really don't get why some people are so miserable that they have to downplay others' achievements to make themselves feel better about themselves.

That's such a ridiculous argument; I have to achieve something better in that field to criticise someone else's 'achievement'. It's like saying you can't say it's not an achievement to get an E in a GCSE exam if you didn't take the subject.

I'd hardly call it American nonsense - it's probably a significant factor in why they've been top of the medals table at all but one olympics in the 21st century.

Yes, being the third best in the world at something is good but celebrating what is essentially losing sets a bad example to young people in my opinion


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Lol.

I bet you are just so jealous that here is someone winning Olympic medals, someone with a great body, someone enjoying life. And he is rubbing it in your face on social media and that riles you up, coz you have a sad, *****y life and this guy is living it.

Actually yes, if you yourself could only score a 'U' it would be ridiculous to criticize others who got a higher mark.
It's ridiculous to label people as losers when they've achieved something you are never going to be capable of. Plus are you really comparing getting an E with winning Olympic bronze?

If you think that an Olympic Bronze is a poor achievement then go and prove how easy it is to win an Olympic gold, in any discipline.
To be calling Olympic Bronze medalists 'losers' is laughable. It's arrogant as hell when Olympic champions like Michael Johnson say it, but at least he's got 4 Olympic golds to his name. What do you have?

I'd argue that other factors such as a far bigger population, combined with the fact they put huge amounts of money into youth sport as a greater reason for American success.

Of course Olympic gold is the aim, but you can't always be the best at something. To be one of the best at anything is a great achievement and to win an Olympic medal, making you the third best at your discipline in the sport is phenomenal.

Again if you think a bronze medalist is a loser, what does it make you? Go and win some gold medals. As usual though we have folks on here who like to sit in their armchair, achieve nothing of note and feel entitled to criticise others who have won Olympic medals because they didn't win gold.

Again, once you've won an Olympic gold medal, you can start criticizing others for only being the third best in the world at their discipline. Until then you just look incredibly bitter and determined to make yourself feel better by criticizing the achievements of others. I personally think being the third best in the world at something is worthy of a celebration but that's just me.
I'm really unsure about how celebrating being the third best in the world 'sets a bad example'.

So if I can only get a U in something that means someone else gets to say that an E is an achievement? Such nonsense. It just means neither of those two people are good at that particular thing, someone being better than me at something doesn't mean they're good. No I'm not comparing the two in terms of their difficulty but the same principle applies.

I didn't say it's a poor achievement, being the third best in the world at something is an achievement. If you 'win' bronze you are factually a loser two people beat you, you did not win that competition.

But then why do so few of the USA's top athletes come from poor backgrounds? If it's about population then why don't countries like India and Indonesia dominate? America have a well known reputation for only valuing winners and you can see that China have the same view from the way their silver medalists have reacted.

Yes to be in the top three in a sport where a very niche sport is still an achievement but Tom Daley is lauded as a national hero despite not even having an Olympic silver to his name but that just sums up how bad we are sport.

2. Well it doesn't make me a loser because I didn't compete. If I'd decides to spend my life jumping into water who knows how good or bad I'd be.

Tom Daley has two Olympic bronze medals, two things I'll never have. On the other hand I have things that Tom Daley will never have and that I wouldn't trade for two bronze medals for diving.

No, the same principal doesn't apply because scoring an E on a test is not the same or nearly the same as being the third best in the world at something. Being an Olympic medalist is an incredible achievement, so it's ridiculous to criticse others who have achieved far, far more than you ever have or will do.

Yes they have factually lost to two people. You can either congratulate them for being the third best in the world or berate them for losing to two people. I know which one makes you sound bitter and jealous.

I didn't say they were the only factors. I said i'd argue they are bigger factors. The reasons countries like Indonesia don't dominate are probably far more to do with the fact that they are very poor and thus cannot pump money into developing young sporting talent like the USA can.
America has a bigger population than Britain for a start and it also places far more emphasis and puts more money into developing sporting talent than we do. As well as that, some have a mentality that 'second is the first loser' but i'd like to see some solid evidence to show that's the sole or even main cause of their success.

I don't agree that Americans only value winners, the runners up in the diving were elated with their achievement.

Yes the Chinese were disappointed, but a lot depends on whether or not you expect to win a gold. If you are red hot favorite for a gold medal and miss out, you will understandably be disappointed. If you are not expecting to win a medal but get one, you'll understandably be elated.

He also won the World Championships, aged 15, won it again, has won four European golds and three Commonwealth golds, as well as his two Olympic Bronze medals.

It's a niche sport, but clearly a difficult sport too and to see your years of hard work rewarded with an Olympic medal is worth celebrating.

You also seem to forget that Tom had a diving partner, who was certainly weaker than him. Tom's scores throughout were higher than Dan's and perhaps with a better partner could have put up a bigger challenge for gold. Tom will go for gold in the individual, so let's see how he does.

Well it does make you a loser because you are nowhere near good enough to compete. And again, he's won World, Commonwealth and European Championships.
Please, do not pretend that the only reason you're not an Olympic medalist because you choose not to. If you think you could be, prove it. Go and win a medal.

Hmm, what do you have that Tom Daley doesn't? Please share and i'll assess if I think it's a greater achievement than an Olympic medal.
The reality is you've never achieved anything in sport of note and never will. You like to sit in the comfort of your own home and belittle the achievements of others to make yourself feel better.

Daley trains incredibly hard and is awarded with World Championships and Olympic medals as well as international fame and bags of money. What are your achievements? What have you done of note?
When you win an Olympic bronze medal you can choose not to celebrate. Until then, stop trying to belittle others achievements.

I'm really keen to hear about your achievements which are better than an Olympic medal. Please share.

The principle is exactly the same, just on a different scale. It's funny how you berate me for criticising his bronze medal yet you keep saying he's achieved far more than I have or will (seems like you're keen to put others down too)

And by the same token I didn't say the only winning matters mentality is the only factor, I said it's a possible factor.

But they should surely have still be delighted? They're the second best in the world in their sport. They were disappointed because they didn't win.

Regardless of how difficult it is, it's niche. His competition is far more limited than most other celebrated athletes.

How can you lose when you are competing? Well no one can know how good I may have been at sports I've never tried.

That's good for him, unfortunately he'll still be regarded as a national hero for not being as good as Chinese and American people.

1. I didn't say I had any better achievements, I said I had things I wouldn't trade for a bronze diving medal.
2. What's better is very subjective


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