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Original post by psycogremlin
The authorities involved into looking into this as well as other towns/cities across the uk have admitted they would be sued for racism and do not wish to offend? Bollox call a duck a duck if it is a duck and a paedophile a paedophile it is the act that is focused on not the colour or race or ethnic origin of the perpetrators - but when the prophet being worshipped is a paedophile any way? In the eyes of most honest westerners - whether they say it or hide behind the political correctness that is destroying the west


blaming the religion is stupid, the quran isn't forcing these people to do anything
Original post by alevelstresss
blaming the religion is stupid, the quran isn't forcing these people to do anything

read the quran and see how they are to regard non believers. islam is a 7th century ideology based on the words of a paedophille, makes me wonder what it is going to take for the non muslim world to realise what the frick is going on. When did political correctness get in the way of truth? i have abit of insight into some of the interviews done with the perpetrators and to hear them justifying their actions based on their religious ideals makes me want to puke and nut kick righteous fricktards that defend their human rights. Who speaks for the victims/survivors rights? mmmm only a few
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Original post by Double Agent
Of course it's a good way to try and understand the situation, it's the personal experience of people in that city affected. It's interesting to know if people have a sense this is something going on in their community or if they are as clueless as the rest of us.

the authorities were told what was going on the same as in other cities but the perpetrators justified their actions quoting the quran as a justification. If that made the mainstream 6 o'clock and 10 o'clock news what would the public reaction be? Chaos - in certain paedophille cases evidence is kept under a D notice by security services under pretence of threat to national security - parliamentary paedophille scandal comes to mind where serving politicians are known - by statements as well as posing in photos with their victims - press have all the information but under D notice they will suicide themselves with help if they talk - ? Dr David Kelly - U.N. arms inspector had info about blair lying to go to war in Iraq - suicide by ingesting 19 tablets with the aid of 50ml of water and death by cutting small artery in the wrist? which he would've had to have sawed through tendon and bone to get to whilst using unserated pen knife blade?
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Original post by The_Opinion
Have you noticed how quiet the leftists and cucks are with this issue.


Leftist, feminist, and disgusted.
Original post by psycogremlin
read the quran and see how they are to regard non believers. islam is a 7th century ideology based on the words of a paedophille, makes me wonder what it is going to take for the non muslim world to realise what the frick is going on. When did political correctness get in the way of truth? i have abit of insight into some of the interviews done with the perpetrators and to hear them justifying their actions based on their religious ideals makes me want to puke and nut kick righteous fricktards that defend their human rights. Who speaks for the victims/survivors rights? mmmm only a few


Paedophiles come in all religions. The Catholic church, for example, is hardly inspired by Muhammed, are they?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases
It seems to be more of an ethnicity issue than a religious one, as most of the gangs come from the same geographical location.
Original post by oShahpo
Paedophiles come in all religions. The Catholic church, for example, is hardly inspired by Muhammed, are they?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases
It seems to be more of an ethnicity issue than a religious one, as most of the gangs come from the same geographical location.


whatabaoutery that does nothing to help the victims of this.

We know what the community feels about these girls and were know where they get these attitudes from.
Original post by psycogremlin
read the quran and see how they are to regard non believers. islam is a 7th century ideology based on the words of a paedophille, makes me wonder what it is going to take for the non muslim world to realise what the frick is going on. When did political correctness get in the way of truth? i have abit of insight into some of the interviews done with the perpetrators and to hear them justifying their actions based on their religious ideals makes me want to puke and nut kick righteous fricktards that defend their human rights. Who speaks for the victims/survivors rights? mmmm only a few


This is simply not true, you've quite obviously nitpicked parts of the Quran out of context and manipulated them to make it look bad. We do not live in a world with 1.5 billion followers of a pedophile. And even then, the Quran isn't forcing any of these people to do anything, the fact that there are different interpretations of Islam, some more violent than others, means that the problems that you perceive are caused by Islam are actually caused by humans and their conscious decisions.
Original post by alevelstresss
We do not live in a world with 1.5 billion followers of a pedophile.


Sadly we do. The age of Aisha is well documented.
Original post by alevelstresss
This is simply not true, you've quite obviously nitpicked parts of the Quran out of context and manipulated them to make it look bad. We do not live in a world with 1.5 billion followers of a pedophile. And even then, the Quran isn't forcing any of these people to do anything, the fact that there are different interpretations of Islam, some more violent than others, means that the problems that you perceive are caused by Islam are actually caused by humans and their conscious decisions.


Of course it's caused by humans, Islam is a human construct. The Quran is a violent book full of abhorent things, so is the bible. You're equally just nitpicking the palatable bits about loving people, but be honest the violent bits are just as valid a representation of islam as the nice bits.
Original post by Double Agent
Of course it's caused by humans, Islam is a human construct. The Quran is a violent book full of abhorent things, so is the bible. You're equally just nitpicking the palatable bits about loving people, but be honest the violent bits are just as valid a representation of islam as the nice bits.


Have you actually read or studied the Quran? And no, I'm not talking about going to religionofpeace.com and reading its heavily biased nonsense.
Original post by alevelstresss
This is simply not true, you've quite obviously nitpicked parts of the Quran out of context and manipulated them to make it look bad. We do not live in a world with 1.5 billion followers of a pedophile. And even then, the Quran isn't forcing any of these people to do anything, the fact that there are different interpretations of Islam, some more violent than others, means that the problems that you perceive are caused by Islam are actually caused by humans and their conscious decisions.


The only reason that there are different interpretations of the quran is that most muslims tend to ignore the violent parts.Extremists dont ignore the violent parts and since the quran is meant to be the word of God they can actually claim to be more correct in their interpretation.The problems are caused by human beliefs, a belief in islam will influence a persons actions in a certain way.If they take it seriously enough usually in a harmful way.If we say Islamic fundementalism is a problem and most people think it is, then it tends to suggest there is something wrong with the fundamentals of Islam
Original post by BaconandSauce
Sadly we do. The age of Aisha is well documented.


have you ever been to a predominantly Muslim region?
Original post by Robby2312
The only reason that there are different interpretations of the quran is that most muslims tend to ignore the violent parts.Extremists dont ignore the violent parts and since the quran is meant to be the word of God they can actually claim to be more correct in their interpretation.The problems are caused by human beliefs, a belief in islam will influence a persons actions in a certain way.If they take it seriously enough usually in a harmful way.If we say Islamic fundementalism is a problem and most people think it is, then it tends to suggest there is something wrong with the fundamentals of Islam


Its not a simple case of 'ignoring the violent parts', extremists manipulate what Islam says to justify their actions. Behind this, they are simply murderers - and the fact that you're acknowledging their false interpretation of Islam as legitimate is legitimising their actions.
Original post by alevelstresss
Have you actually read or studied the Quran? And no, I'm not talking about going to religionofpeace.com and reading its heavily biased nonsense.


Yes I have read it, I was given a free copy at Uni and have taken a great interest in trying to understand Islam. Get as defensive as you like, it doesn't change the facts this is an ideology that is inspiring terrible things in the world and forms the basis of a morality in many cultures that is inherently anti women, anti freedom and anti progress.
Original post by alevelstresss
Its not a simple case of 'ignoring the violent parts', extremists manipulate what Islam says to justify their actions. Behind this, they are simply murderers - and the fact that you're acknowledging their false interpretation of Islam as legitimate is legitimising their actions.


Their interpretation is legitimate.The quran is believed to be the word of god that cannot be changed.If it says in the quran kill unbelievers then if you ignore that then you're ignoring the word of god.And if you say their interpretation is illegitamate then you're also ignoring the many muslim states that also take a literal view of the quran.What about saudi arabia where they kill gay people or apostates? Are they also not true muslims?.If you say Isis arent true muslims then you also have to say states like iran or saudi arabia arent true muslims and tbh I dont think they'd take too kindly to that.
Original post by Robby2312
Their interpretation is legitimate.The quran is believed to be the word of god that cannot be changed.If it says in the quran kill unbelievers then if you ignore that then you're ignoring the word of god.And if you say their interpretation is illegitamate then you're also ignoring the many muslim states that also take a literal view of the quran.What about saudi arabia where they kill gay people or apostates? Are they also not true muslims?.If you say Isis arent true muslims then you also have to say states like iran or saudi arabia arent true muslims and tbh I dont think they'd take too kindly to that.


Have you actually read the quran? And an ant-Islam article on thereligionofpeace.com doesn't count..
Original post by Double Agent
Yes I have read it, I was given a free copy at Uni and have taken a great interest in trying to understand Islam. Get as defensive as you like, it doesn't change the facts this is an ideology that is inspiring terrible things in the world and forms the basis of a morality in many cultures that is inherently anti women, anti freedom and anti progress.


All religions are despicable ideologies, but you focus on Islam as if its the bad one. There are so many factors which are non-religious which motivate extremists to do the things that they do.
Original post by alevelstresss
All religions are despicable ideologies, but you focus on Islam as if its the bad one. There are so many factors which are non-religious which motivate extremists to do the things that they do.


Well obviously, in this case Islam IS the bad one, you can't say with a straight face these issues and extremism are totally unrelated to Islam. Surely you're not so blinkered or indoctrinated that you can't think objectively about something you've dedicated your entire life and belief system to? Anyways, we're derailing the thread somewhat, this is about sexual abuse in Rotherham which is more a cultural phenomenon than a religious one.
Original post by Double Agent
Well obviously, in this case Islam IS the bad one, you can't say with a straight face these issues and extremism are totally unrelated to Islam. Surely you're not so blinkered or indoctrinated that you can't think objectively about something you've dedicated your entire life and belief system to? Anyways, we're derailing the thread somewhat, this is about sexual abuse in Rotherham which is more a cultural phenomenon than a religious one.


You're right, Islam is the justification that these murderers use to live with themselves, and to politicise and therefore increase the impact of their hateful actions.

But Islam isn't holding a gun to their head forcing them to kill, these people kill because they've had something go wrong in their lives, and they have found comfort in extremist Islam, which has concentrated their hatred and motivated them to kill without being dismissed as a lone madman.

If Islam disappeared tomorrow, these hateful people would still kill, just under a different purported justification.
Original post by alevelstresss
have you ever been to a predominantly Muslim region?


Yes. (including ones that allow marriage to children because old mo did it as well)

But what does this have to do with the price of fish?

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