"Disagreeing with homosexuality is not homophobic"

You can't disagree with homosexuality. You agree or disagree to opinions or arguments. Homosexuality as a state of being is neither, it just exists. Disagreeing with it would be like disagreeing with the existence of a chair.

I'm not comparing the two. I'm highlighting that you can disagree with homosexuality despite it not being a choice just like you can disagree with paedophila(as people don't choose to be attracted to children)

You might as well "disagree" with people for being Japanese or female or 60 years old, then say that you have no prejudice against them.

That is comparing. Pedophiles harm children which is why people are against it...

You make some good posts. People have the right to dislike the act of homosexuality, but it is homophobic in the same way that disliking people of different races is still racist, even if you have never carried out a hate crime personally.

So is homophobia disliking the act of homosexuality or prejudice/discrimination towards gay people?

Both.

If you ask me whether hating members of other races is racism, or is racist physically attacking them I would say both are racist.

No one argues or thinks that racism only includes physical or verbal attacks though. In fact the common definition characterises it as a *belief*, so I think your comparison is poor.

Homophobia is defined as a dislike or prejudice against gay people. It's prejudice against persons. You can 'disagree' with homosexuality whilst not holding prejudice towards gay people or even disliking them. Of course many people who disagree with homosexuality also hate gay people, but it doesn't have to be the case.

Exactly what I was going to say.

Some people whether through nature or nurture end up with a sexual attraction to children. Nobody would choose to have that but people have it nonetheless.

The principle that people are using that you can't be blamed for who you are 'like having green eyes' must extend to the case of paedophiles. Otherwise, your argument is essentially: people can't be blamed for who they are unless it is something I disagree with.

Since we all know paedophilic acts are wrong that can only mean that there is moral distinction between feelings and actions.

And if you accept that and understand that people have different beliefs about what is and isn't immoral, you will see that from the point of view of someone who believes homosexuality is immoral it does not imply that they are homophobic.

I don't think homosexual acts are immoral but we should be tolerant of people and respect their right to have whatever beliefs they do.

How tf can you disagree with homosexuality? It's a thing that happens, that's like disagreeing with gravity

This is like saying you dislike someone for being a member of a different race, notice how I've changed the wording to make being a member of a different race into a verb.


I'm not personally offended if someone wants to be homophobic it's their personal choice, but it's amusing seeing someone try to change the definition of something to give themselves some wriggle-room to allow them to be hateful bigots, without actually wanting to adopt the label of hateful bigot.

Paedophiles can't help their orientation no more than a straight person or a homosexual - but they musn't act on their desire because no child can give meaningful consent.

The difference between gays and paedophiles is that any adult person can give consent (barring mental disorders etc). And we should really let consenting adults do as they please in the bedroom. If you want it because you like it and somebody else is willing to do it to you, what is the problem you're seeing? We have certain holes and body parts that fit together (and certain internal parts are quite pleasurable for men, I'm told.). What is so immoral about having sex with the person you love? What are the reasons?

You know... Apart from quoting a book that tells you to hit your wife ^^