The world is going to tear itself apart with Islam hate

You can't really dismiss the basic response of other people when faced with an actual terrorist crisis. Everyone knows not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists happened to be Muslims. This is a basic fact. Their sensitivity is not misguided, it is a normal action-reaction response.

And to be frank, many of those who you accuse of 'denouncing' Islam actually are proposing a solution. You on the other hand isn't. What is your solution?

Here is my response on a previous thread:

you clearly arnt, am atheist would have denounced various edicts found within islamic dctrine a while back .




again no, even for a muslim your knowledge is substandard. sharia is nto a defined system - it doesnt exist. however any principle can be 'sharia' if it si proved in scripture ie therefore a system that doesnt apply hand chopping is going against criteria of islamic doctrine therefore is not sharia at all

you are getting your generic ethnicities confused. - racial violence did not occur in notting hill, to a large extent it occurred in brixton - but these werent 'asians or africans' but west indians. . despite which riots against NR far right marches does not equate to widescale islamic terrorism that operates on a global basis. - where uk citizens can fly off to paksitan or syria and come back with murderous knowledge and intent and fulled by dogma pumped into them by an imama or sheikh they met for less than 3 minute. that is the influence of islamist doctrine on muslims- no other ethnic group is at as much risk to this level of social disorder. the problems we are seeing islamic radicalisation amoung young muslims is unprescedented and you sticking your head in the sand trying to pretend there is no problem i exactly why the far right is gaining votes.

probably because youre a muslim trying to pretend not to be

If you want to go around challenging, deporting and killing people because of their views, then your ideal Orwellian-government is worse than what the very people you're trying to incriminate propose.

As long as they are never willing to act on their beliefs, it is fine.

And to me, wanting to leave the EU for immigration reasons is a backwards view.

If you want to go around challenging, deporting and killing people because of their views, then your ideal Orwellian-government is worse than what the very people you're trying to incriminate propose.

As long as they are never willing to act on their beliefs, it is fine.

And to me, wanting to leave the EU for immigration reasons is a backwards view.

Just like a pedophile was fine all those years resisting. Until the day he didnt.

Hey i love hitler, but i havent killed any jews yet so we should be best friends coz im just fine

are you done with these childish oversimplifications of a massively complex problem? or do you want some more white people to die because of your bigotry?

1. You get to do this but if i do its childish oversimplification

2. Because i am speakijg out against islam, white people are going to die?


Oh no, poor terrorist, that guy said something against islam, of course he must kill people in retaliation!!!

I suppose it is that simple in a 5 year-old's perspective.

Most terrorists are Muslims for non-religious regions. The Middle East has suffered through brutal dictators, failed western foreign policy, it is a desert far from anywhere, poor living standards - it is a thriving ground for corruption and extremism. Its no wonder that Islam developed extremist tenets, and we have Buddhism or Hinduism which grew in thriving, fertile lands.

People are incriminating Islam as the primary factor in this complex net of factors, the actual problem is war. War destroys lives, it then radicalises people and makes them more used to violence and generates hateful feelings - which are concentrated by extremist Islam. If Christianity were dominant in a war-torn country, we would see Christian extremists.

As for my solutions, we need to encourage the Muslim community to strongly denounce Islamic State on a political stage and also on TV. It is done a lot through social media, but that doesn't reach everyone. Additionally to prevent terror attacks, we need to tackle down on weapon black markets in Europe, the UK, we need more armed police at large rallies and events. But we can't prevent terror attacks, as Nice demonstrated. Terrorists will always adapt, but the least we can do is stop hating on what is evidently a volatile, malleable group of people, and start blaming the Islamic State for inspiring and radicalising these people. It is my view that if it were called something other than 'Islamic State', we wouldn't be seeing half of this mess, previously we've had Al-Shabab, al-Qaeda, who people know are vaguely Muslim or extremists, but never a state claiming to purport true Islam. Its both their fault and also racist bigots fault for falling for their propaganda name.

What would you define 'integration' as?

I implore hatred against hateful ideologies.
if an ideology says I should die for my sexuality, for instance, I think that movement should be thrown against the ****ing wall (I'm bisexual, at least).
at least the westboro baptist church doesn't want to behead me like some of "those" people. there are millions upon millions of "those" people, be they in my own country or in the middle east, that will at least want me in prison for my very existence. or at least my views against their own.

"oh you're so racist, how can you say that?" - how can *you* defend a religion that wants me to die?

The religion doesn't want you to die, fool, neither do 1.6 billion Muslims. Why should 1.6 billion good, decent people who put their conscience before what they think is the word of god, be incriminated?

How is gallivanting around and instantly associating all Muslims with terrorism helping the situation?

We live in a **** world and we need to make the best of it, not go around like a fool encouraging ignorance.

I think the main reason why people have issues with Islam is the inequality it encourages especially towards woman and gays. Unlike most other religions, it has not been able to adapt itself to modern Western ideologies. This is where the problem lies, the religion is often incompatible with our values and not enough is being done to make them to integrate and adopt our values.

However you still cannot say people's concerns are misdirected, at the end of the day, those terrorists were Muslims. You can't just pick and choose who you want to consider a 'Muslim'.

There is also only so much we can blame on the system, before we acknowledge that those terrorists committed those horrific acts on their own free wills, for religious reasons. I don't encourage people disapproving Islam as a whole where there is unjustified reasoning, but you simply can't criticise people for calling a spade a spade.

What most people are proposing is that we should urgently put measures to integrate the existing Muslim population. This begins with people including you, acknowledging that there is a cultural integration issue at the heart of the problem. Immigration and asylum application from Islamic countries must be heavily controlled and scrutinised.

I hope you can see that there is a sensible way to tackle a problem, but what we mustn't do is to ignore that there is a problem, and getting oversensitive over any criticisms of Islam.We need to keep in mind is that the measures are not only to protect the non-Muslim population, but the Muslims as well. Frustrations aside, we must act on the welfare of the Muslim population and ensure that their rights are not violated (e.g. racially motivated hate crimes).

So all this hate against Islam is not justified.
Hmmm

Hate is never justified against someone's way of life, its just bigotry

The religion doesn't want you to die, fool, neither do 1.6 billion Muslims. Why should 1.6 billion good, decent people who put their conscience before what they think is the word of god, be incriminated?

How is gallivanting around and instantly associating all Muslims with terrorism helping the situation?

We live in a **** world and we need to make the best of it, not go around like a fool encouraging ignorance.