Asylum seekers to be offered scholarships at the University of Bristol

In that case why not just make them take A levels?

Illegal immigrants can get a house and financial support off the state and they know it.

They simply claim asylum and wait while their cases are considered.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33729417

If you have been following my discussion with inhuman you will know that all unaccompanied minors who seek asylum are entitled to a totally free university education presently.

However rich their parents are.

That is clearly going to "encourage" them to come. In the jargon it is a "pull factor."

And that is why it is being changed, hence these scholarships springing up.

Yet you take for granted just how difficult it is to gain refugee status in the UK. As I have stated earlier, many asylum seekers take years, even decades before their applications are accepted. Some end up getting deported once their application is rejected, it's not the cushty life that you're painting it to be. And if the State knows that they're here, they are not "illegal immigrants".

Ah yes, "unaccompanied minors". What is it with scapegoating a group that makes up a minority of refugees anyway (or at least did until recently, due to the Syrian civil war)? The fact of the matter is that most refugees cannot get help to fund their studies, and it's sickening to see people who were brought up in an environment that surrounded them with privilege and opportunity crying about the less fortunate getting a few scholarships from a single university.

Even if their asylum claims are rejected they often can't be deported.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/12183475/Asylum-seekers-arriving-in-Europe-doubled-to-1.2-million-last-year.html

They usually destroy any identity papers, passports etc before making their claims. Then they can pretend to be from somewhere they are not.

And it is pretty cushty compared to the third world $hit holes they have escaped from. That is why they are here. After all, if our taxpayer funded welcome doesn't please them they could always leave. It is not as though they didn't prove themselves capable of trans national mobility by getting here in the first place. The fact they don't, but instead keep taking the handouts says it all.


They haven't been "scapegoated" as you put it, they have been given somewhere to live, food and spending money, a free education and free health care. Who wouldn't want to come from a poor country to live here? Do you think they like the weather or something?

And their lives are not at risk, because they have passed through safe countries to get here. They are here for the money.

The biggest iniquity, though, is that up till now, having completely supported them till adulthood (actually many are much older but lie about their age) the British tax payer has funded their tuition fees and living costs at university. Unlike the children of those tax payers (in England) who of course have to pay.

Do you think that changing this policy so they don't get a totally free university education is "scapegoating" them?

Seriously?

Do you pay any tax yourself can I ask? Or does some bizarre sense of entitlement lead you to think that you can advocate that others pay for these illegal immigrants on your behalf?

Let me tell you, most tax payers are incensed when they they hear stories like this. And that is why the policy is being changed.

I don't really care tbh.

But I would like to know what "morally unconscionable" means.

Also, imagine if butthurt Americans in the 1930s complained about people like Fermi or Einstein getting free university access because they were refugees.

But then they should not be getting Free education Because they are forigners, but because they are smart

They're not getting free education because they're foreigners, but because they have lost their homes and their country *talking about genuine refugees that the UK offered to house*.

Ok then, they should not be getting free Education because
they have lost their homes and their country *talking about genuine refugees that the UK offered to house

but because they are good at what they do or have great potential

Of course they will have great potential, otherwise they wouldn't even make it past the initial admissions stage. They still have to achieve certain grades(or equivalent). People on this thread seem to be under the impression that the refugees being offered this scholarship are going to be recent ones from the migrant crisis, which isn't necessarily the case. The UK has refugees and asylum seekers who have been living here for numerous years and attended sixth form etc..

But it should be priority for British students of the same caliber

Bristol Uni can't force Student Finance to fund refugees, as they are not (like I said) a government institution. Since they are not willing to do this in most cases, the university is offering the refugees an alternative.

If you are eligible for Student Finance and don't have to worry about funding your education, it's easy to criticise this scholarship.

I think that b****ing and moaning about them constantly, blaming them for all of your and this country's problems vilifying and demonising them, painting them as greedy people who are after the "riches" when many are escaping war and several other horrible situations is scapegoating them, I though that was clear.

Some people do love their countries but simply cannot live there, because it's no longer safe. In fact, those who can afford to flee their countries to Europe are usually educated and middle class, not the paupers you are painting them to be. If they were looking for the best living standards possible, North America or Scandinavia would be more appropriate locations than the UK.

Safe countries that probably won't keep them. The majority are in smaller Middle Eastern, non-Gulf countries, according to stats. There are only so many refugees that these countries can take though.

I have paid tax (before starting my masters), quite a lot of it,

Is paying tax supposed to make one numb to the suffering of others? Is it supposed to make you selfish and feeling entitled to charity handouts, despite that you have had a chance at a good life and a good chance at education since birth?

To lump all refugees together are people looking to scrounge benefits, on the other hand is distasteful at best.

And since the policy is being changed, shouldn't that be enough for you? Why are people in turn attacking Bristol University for offering refugees a few scholarships?

I'm not saying they *are* eligible, I'm saying rather than throwing free money at them - when our own students are struggling enough - we should make them pay loans, too. They *should* be eligible.

I don't like it. Give all British students a scholarship first, then let's worry about the rest of the world....

The only one bit$hing and moaning is you.

I don't want any more refugees/economic immigrants admitted to the UK.

And we need to start rounding up and deporting the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants and failed asylum seekers.

That's it, end of. And most of my fellow countrymen and women agree, check out the opinion polling if you don't believe me.


Not our problem.

The US doesn't want them on security grounds. Very sensible of them.

Sweden has been insane to admit so many...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-17/sweden-s-refugee-costs-will-top-defense-spending-in-2016-chart

Ad so have Germany...

https://www.rt.com/news/341233-refugee-crisis-germany-billion/

By the way, if these illegal immigrants/refugees are so rich and educated why do they need the British taxpayer to totally support them?



They need to stay close to their home countries and then when the war ends (which it will) go back and rebuild them.If they love their homelands so much (and they are not just looking for a golden ticket to the west) that is what they will want to do, anyway


Good for you. Of course that doesn't give you the right to decide how anyone else's tax is spent, does it?

The majority of tax payers don't want to support tens (hundreds?) of thousands of "refugees" so the new post Brexit government dare not allow more in than those already agreed by Cameron.. Deal with it.

Yawn. Nauseating lefty virtue signalling at its worst.

Emoting on a web site doesn't demonstrate that you care.

How much do you give to refugee charities? What do you actually DO to help?

Confected outrage.


I don't have a problem with Bristol University offering scholarships to existing "refugees" (as long as they aren't actually illegal immigrants).I just say we don't take any more. And we start getting serious about kicking out illegals.

Trust me that is the way this country is going. The way the whole of Europe is headed.

The whole continent has had it with "refugees." If the politicians don't get a grip, it will get very very ugly.