More chance of getting into Oxford or Cambridge or the same (Law)?

Hi,I'm posting on behalf of my daughter, who doesn't really do forums!

She's just got her AS level results and can't decide whether to put Oxford or Cambridge on her UCAS form (nice choice to have I guess!). She wants to do Law.

She did an outreach weekend covering Law and other Humanities at Cambridge at Easter, and loved it, and then did a week's Uniq Law residential at Oxford and also loved that. Her slight preference is Oxford based on these but she would like to apply for whichever one she'd have more chance of getting into.

GCSE's - she got 5A* 4A and 1B

However (i) her application will have a good chance of being "flagged" for contextual data as these were the best results at her school where not many go onto Oxbridge and we live in a bit of a rubbish postcode and (ii) there were some extenuating circumstances that we will ask her college reference to put down - basically she has Aspergers, ADHD and Depression / Anxiety which caused her a lot of problems in secondary education, also the school told her not to apply for extra time for her GCSEs as "you won't get that at A Level or Uni" which turned out to be wrong, and she does now get extra time for her A Levels!

AS - she got 3 A's (in Wales these still count 50% towards her overall A Levels):

Government and Politics UMS 98 + 92 = 190/200

Geography UMS 95 + 82 = 177/200

Law UMS 94 + 72 = 166/200

She wants to resit the 72 in Law (also asked for her marked script back) as she normally does much better in that subject (it's actually been her best one in class essays, mocks,etc) - she said there was a "funny question" which she thinks she may have messed up. Also, she ran out of time on revision so only covered certain topics meaning that she had to do the funny question!

The main differences in the two Unis in terms of admissions as far as we can make out so far are:

Oxford seem to look more at GCSEs (we were told in the Open Day that they no longer look at AS results as not all schools now declare them)

Cambridge do still look at AS results where declared

Oxford uses the LNAT test which is used as part of the decision whether to interview

Cambridge has their own Cambridge Law Test however this is done at Interview so not used to sift people out beforehand

Cambridge interview more people (80% of applicants) whereas Oxford sift more people out pre-interview

Finally, Cambridge's standard offer for Law is A*AA whereas Oxford's is AAA

So, does anyone think she's more likely to get into one over the other based on the above, or are both equally likely / unlikely?

Thanks :-)

Hi,I'm posting on behalf of my daughter, who doesn't really do forums!

She's just got her AS level results and can't decide whether to put Oxford or Cambridge on her UCAS form (nice choice to have I guess!). She wants to do Law.

She did an outreach weekend covering Law and other Humanities at Cambridge at Easter, and loved it, and then did a week's Uniq Law residential at Oxford and also loved that. Her slight preference is Oxford based on these but she would like to apply for whichever one she'd have more chance of getting into.

GCSE's - she got 5A* 4A and 1B

However (i) her application will have a good chance of being "flagged" for contextual data as these were the best results at her school where not many go onto Oxbridge and we live in a bit of a rubbish postcode and (ii) there were some extenuating circumstances that we will ask her college reference to put down - basically she has Aspergers, ADHD and Depression / Anxiety which caused her a lot of problems in secondary education, also the school told her not to apply for extra time for her GCSEs as "you won't get that at A Level or Uni" which turned out to be wrong, and she does now get extra time for her A Levels!

AS - she got 3 A's (in Wales these still count 50% towards her overall A Levels):

Government and Politics UMS 98 + 92 = 190/200

Geography UMS 95 + 82 = 177/200

Law UMS 94 + 72 = 166/200

She wants to resit the 72 in Law (also asked for her marked script back) as she normally does much better in that subject (it's actually been her best one in class essays, mocks,etc) - she said there was a "funny question" which she thinks she may have messed up. Also, she ran out of time on revision so only covered certain topics meaning that she had to do the funny question!

The main differences in the two Unis in terms of admissions as far as we can make out so far are:

Oxford seem to look more at GCSEs (we were told in the Open Day that they no longer look at AS results as not all schools now declare them)

Cambridge do still look at AS results where declared

Oxford uses the LNAT test which is used as part of the decision whether to interview

Cambridge has their own Cambridge Law Test however this is done at Interview so not used to sift people out beforehand

Cambridge interview more people (80% of applicants) whereas Oxford sift more people out pre-interview

Finally, Cambridge's standard offer for Law is A*AA whereas Oxford's is AAA

So, does anyone think she's more likely to get into one over the other based on the above, or are both equally likely / unlikely?

Thanks :-)

Hi,I'm posting on behalf of my daughter, who doesn't really do forums!

She's just got her AS level results and can't decide whether to put Oxford or Cambridge on her UCAS form (nice choice to have I guess!). She wants to do Law.

She did an outreach weekend covering Law and other Humanities at Cambridge at Easter, and loved it, and then did a week's Uniq Law residential at Oxford and also loved that. Her slight preference is Oxford based on these but she would like to apply for whichever one she'd have more chance of getting into.

GCSE's - she got 5A* 4A and 1B

However (i) her application will have a good chance of being "flagged" for contextual data as these were the best results at her school where not many go onto Oxbridge and we live in a bit of a rubbish postcode and (ii) there were some extenuating circumstances that we will ask her college reference to put down - basically she has Aspergers, ADHD and Depression / Anxiety which caused her a lot of problems in secondary education, also the school told her not to apply for extra time for her GCSEs as "you won't get that at A Level or Uni" which turned out to be wrong, and she does now get extra time for her A Levels!

AS - she got 3 A's (in Wales these still count 50% towards her overall A Levels):

Government and Politics UMS 98 + 92 = 190/200

Geography UMS 95 + 82 = 177/200

Law UMS 94 + 72 = 166/200

She wants to resit the 72 in Law (also asked for her marked script back) as she normally does much better in that subject (it's actually been her best one in class essays, mocks,etc) - she said there was a "funny question" which she thinks she may have messed up. Also, she ran out of time on revision so only covered certain topics meaning that she had to do the funny question!

The main differences in the two Unis in terms of admissions as far as we can make out so far are:

Oxford seem to look more at GCSEs (we were told in the Open Day that they no longer look at AS results as not all schools now declare them)

Cambridge do still look at AS results where declared

Oxford uses the LNAT test which is used as part of the decision whether to interview

Cambridge has their own Cambridge Law Test however this is done at Interview so not used to sift people out beforehand

Cambridge interview more people (80% of applicants) whereas Oxford sift more people out pre-interview

Finally, Cambridge's standard offer for Law is A*AA whereas Oxford's is AAA

So, does anyone think she's more likely to get into one over the other based on the above, or are both equally likely / unlikely?

Thanks :-)

It's worth noting that it's actually 40% AS and 60% A2(for reformed subjects. Others vary).

On to the matter at hand, I'd say she'd probably have a better shot at Cambridge, as there are far less applicants and their consideration of GCSEs are lower than Oxford's.

I'm pretty sure it's 50% - England may be different to Wales now.

According to their statistics, Oxford had around 1,300 applications for Law (15% acceptance rate) and Cambridge had just over 1,000 applications (20% acceptance rate).

It's worth noting that it's actually 40% AS and 60% A2(for reformed subjects. Others vary).

On to the matter at hand, I'd say she'd probably have a better shot at Cambridge, as there are far less applicants and their consideration of GCSEs are lower than Oxford's.

Hi, I've seen this somewhere, but, now I can't find the link for the weightage. Could you sent me the source which has this 40-60 break up, please?

Look in the specifications of the subjects that concern you.

For sciences, history, English lit, economics, it's 40:60 now. All the others that aren't reformed vary.

I'm pretty sure it's 50% - England may be different to Wales now.

According to their statistics, Oxford had around 1,300 applications for Law (15% acceptance rate) and Cambridge had just over 1,000 applications (20% acceptance rate).

I'm pretty sure it's 50% - England may be different to Wales now.

According to their statistics, Oxford had around 1,300 applications for Law (15% acceptance rate) and Cambridge had just over 1,000 applications (20% acceptance rate).

Looking at the statistics, Cambridge's acceptance rate is closer to 25%. They have a larger cohort, around 250 vs. Oxford around 180.

Nope. I think you are looking at offers not acceptances.

Cambridge 2015 data: 1015 applicants, 208 acceptances = 20.5% acceptance rate.



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