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Burkini ban deemed 'illegal', ban suspended

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37198479

Thank **** the French high administrative court is stopping this, it was not only ridiculous, ineffective, discriminatory - but also technically illegal.

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Reply 1
Such a pity - I actually wanted to see a video of a woman remove her burkini, then come back to the beach in a Nun's/KKK/Nazi uniform instead and record police reaction
Good. People should have the right to wear whatever they want at the beach; even if it's the garb of some backward, repressive Middle Eastern religion.

I would, however, be for banning socks with sandles. Eeewwww.
Reply 3
Original post by Another
Such a pity - I actually wanted to see a video of a woman remove her burkini, then come back to the beach in a Nun's/KKK/Nazi uniform instead and record police reaction


They would have been asked to remove it as well. KKK and Nazi uniforms are illegal everywhere in France. Stop using false analogies.
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Original post by Dandaman1
Good. People should have the right to wear whatever they want at the beach; even if it's the garb of some backward, repressive Middle Eastern religion.

I would, however, be for banning socks with sandles. Eeewwww.


And Crocs
Reply 5
There will be a law against it in September; it might reach a supermajority which would overturn any decision from the Supreme Court.
Reply 6
Original post by alevelstresss
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37198479

Thank **** the French high administrative court is stopping this, it was not only ridiculous, ineffective, discriminatory - but also technically illegal.


It was not discriminatory as France is a laice state and burkini is an obvious religious symbol.
Original post by Josb
There will be a law against it in September; it might reach a supermajority which would overturn any decision from the Supreme Court.


Source?
Reply 8
Original post by Dima-Blackburn
Source?


French MPs are claiming that they will make a bill. Considering the support among the population, many socialists MPs may vote it too. Anyway, the right will get a supermajority next year and will pass it then.
Original post by slaven
It was not discriminatory as France is a laice state and burkini is an obvious religious symbol.


Then it makes no sense to ban only the burkinis...

Come on, banning a clothing style adopted by many Muslims in response to terrorist attacks is plain discriminatory.
Original post by alevelstresss
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37198479

Thank **** the French high administrative court is stopping this, it was not only ridiculous, ineffective, discriminatory - but also technically illegal.


you only care because it's an islamic issue though so this seems really shallow of you to say
nudity is banned - are you upset equally about *that*?
because nudity is banned via the same principle of "we don't like this - let's ban it"
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Original post by sleepysnooze
you only care because it's an islamic issue though
nudity is banned - are you upset equally about *that*?
because nudity is banned via the same principle of "we don't like this - let's ban it"


Banning nudity, something common to all humans, doesn't actively incriminate a specific religious group.
Original post by alevelstresss
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37198479

Thank **** the French high administrative court is stopping this, it was not only ridiculous, ineffective, discriminatory - but also technically illegal.


Id say they were forced into a decision like this, will all the threats against France in recent months. In my opinion, I say ban the Burka and Niqab, This doesn't make me a racist or discriminatory. There's noting wrong with wearing Hijab or Dupatta instead.
Even though 64% of French people want to see the Burkini banned, the French High Court has opted to ignore the populous and abide by unbeknownst legality to appease vocal minority protest groups.

Nickolas Sarkozy, who is likely to lead the UMP for the 2017 election, has already said that he would support a nationwide ban on the Burkini. Also, don't be surprised if the support for the Front National increases as a result of the High Court's decision as it's just a further instance of the political elite defying public opinion to instill their unfounded regressive agenda.

- Hollande, leader of the PS, is polling at 13%.
- Sarkozy, expected nominee for the UMP, is polling at 23%.
- Le Pen, leader of the Front Nation, is polling at 29%.

The ban's reversal won't last long.
Original post by sleepysnooze
you only care because it's an islamic issue though so this seems really shallow of you to say
nudity is banned - are you upset equally about *that*?
because nudity is banned via the same principle of "we don't like this - let's ban it"


I thought public nudity was legal in the UK?
Original post by jake4198
Even though 64% of French people want to see the Burkini banned, the French High Court has opted to ignore the populous and abide by unbeknownst legality to appease vocal minority protest groups.

Nickolas Sarkozy, who is likely to lead the UMP for the 2017 election, has already said that he would support a nationwide ban on the Burkini. Also, don't be surprised if the support for the Front National increases as a result of the High Court's decision as it's just a further instance of the political elite defying public opinion to instill their unfounded regressive agenda.

- Hollande, leader of the PS, is polling at 13%.
- Sarkozy, expected nominee for the UMP, is polling at 23%.
- Le Pen, leader of the Front Nation, is polling at 29%.

The ban's reversal won't last long.


The majority of the population thinking x doesn't warrant the implementation of x.

Imagine if x were the active, free persecution of gays?
Original post by jake4198
Even though 64% of French people want to see the Burkini banned, the French High Court has opted to ignore the populous and abide by unbeknownst legality to appease vocal minority protest groups.

Nickolas Sarkozy, who is likely to lead the UMP for the 2017 election, has already said that he would support a nationwide ban on the Burkini. Also, don't be surprised if the support for the Front National increases as a result of the High Court's decision as it's just a further instance of the political elite defying public opinion to instill their unfounded regressive agenda.

- Hollande, leader of the PS, is polling at 13%.
- Sarkozy, expected nominee for the UMP, is polling at 23%.
- Le Pen, leader of the Front Nation, is polling at 29%.

The ban's reversal won't last long.


Right, so if 64% of the French population supported the constant surveillance of every Muslim in the country, we should just let that happen? The court ruling was over the freedoms of the people, we don't throw civil liberties out the window just because it has a majority vote.
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Original post by jake4198
Even though 64% of French people want to see the Burkini banned, the French High Court has opted to ignore the populous and abide by unbeknownst legality to appease vocal minority protest groups.

Nickolas Sarkozy, who is likely to lead the UMP for the 2017 election, has already said that he would support a nationwide ban on the Burkini. Also, don't be surprised if the support for the Front National increases as a result of the High Court's decision as it's just a further instance of the political elite defying public opinion to instill their unfounded regressive agenda.

- Hollande, leader of the PS, is polling at 13%.
- Sarkozy, expected nominee for the UMP, is polling at 23%.
- Le Pen, leader of the Front Nation, is polling at 29%.

The ban's reversal won't last long.


Yes, because ignoring populist demands and upholding the principles of personal liberty, equality and common decency is an example of the "political elite instilling unfounded regressive agenda".
Original post by alevelstresss
The majority of the population thinking x doesn't warrant the implementation of x.

Imagine if x were the active, free persecution of gays?


In a democracy, it is the responsibility of the ruling government to appease the views of the majority.

Anyhow, the chances of the Socialists retaining power in 2017 is so slim that it's only a matter of time before progressive changes limiting the wearing of oppressive Islamic attire is made illegal by the UMP.
Original post by BasicMistake
Right, so if 64% of the French population supported the constant surveillance of every Muslim in the country, we should just let that happen? The court ruling was over the freedoms of the people, we don't throw civil liberties out the window just because it has a majority vote.


51.9% of people chose for the UK to leave the EU, can we reverse that because it wasn't a huge majority? Its how democracy works dude.

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