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The Guardian: The last days of a white world (please read this concerning article)

It was news and no news; the most significant milestone in one of the most profound changes to affect the US in the past century, and yet a non-event. Last week the US Census Bureau issued figures showing that non-hispanic whites made up 49.8 per cent of the population of California. Anglo-Saxon whites are already a minority in Hawaii and the District of Columbia. Now they are an ethnic minority in the country's most populous state, the one most usually identified with the American dream. *
It's my hope we can all see our state's diversity as a cause for celebration and not consternation, said California's lieutenant governor, Cruz Bustamente, a Latino. Robert Newby, a white shop-owner who has lived in Los Angeles for 40 years, echoed his optimism:
This confirms what most of us have thought for years. I am happy for there to be more immigrants - by and large they work harder and have more money to spend.
*As recently as 1970, eight out of 10 Californians were white. Fuelled by immigration at its highest rate since the start of the last century, and higher fertility rates, the Asian and Latino populations of California have risen by almost a third since 1990. At the same time, with limited immigration and low birth rates, the population of non-hispanic whites has fallen by 3 per cent. By 2040, hispanics are expected to be the overall majority in the state. Advertisement Where California goes, the rest of America is predicted to follow. At present 72 per cent of the US population is non-hispanic whites; the US Census Bureau predicts they will become a minority between 2055 and 2060. *

Not every one likes the new face of America. White far-right extremists predict the break-up of the union. Thomas W. Chittum, a New Jersey-based Vietnam War veteran, declared in his book Civil War Two, that the US, like Yugoslavia, will shatter into new, ethnically-based nations.
America was born in blood, America suckled on blood, America gorged on blood and grew into a giant, and America will drown in blood, Chittum warned. The separatists have set up groups such as Americans for Self-Determination. One of the founders, Jeff Anderson, said:
We are suggesting the US be partitioned into states for blacks, whites, hispanics, and so on, along with multi-racial states for those who wish to continue with this experiment. Now is the time to begin such a multi-racial dialogue about separatism, before a storm of violent racial conflict erupts.
The shifting sands of the US reflect wider - and highly controversial - changes elsewhere in the world. It is an area in which few demographers dare to tread for fear of being accused of racism.
You cannot quote me - a word out of place and I get crapped on from a very great height, said one academic.
Whatever you say you are deemed racist.

The past millennium was more than anything the era of the whites. Just 500 years ago, few had ventured outside their European homeland. Then, with several acts of genocide clearing the way, they settled in North America, South America, Australia, New Zealand and, to a lesser extent, southern Africa. But now, around the world, whites are falling as a proportion of population. The United Nations collects and produces a vast array of statistics on population, but produces none relating to race or ethnic origin. Indeed few countries collect their own figures on ethnicity - in Europe, only the UK and the Netherlands do. However, the UN's State of the World Population 1999 predicted that 98 per cent of the growth in the world's population by 2025 will occur in lesser developed regions, principally Africa and Asia. The most significant reason for this is lower birth rates in rich countries: in 61 countries, mainly the rich ones, people are no longer having enough babies to replace themselves.

In its World Population Profile 1998, the US Census Bureau predicted that by the second decade of this century all the net gain in world population will be in developing countries.
The future of human population growth has been determined, and is being determined, in the world's poorer nations, it said. The global centre of gravity is changing. In 1900 Europe had a quarter of the world's population, and three times that of Africa; by 2050 Europe is predicted to have just 7 per cent of the world population, and a third that of Africa. The ageing and declining populations of predominantly white nations have prompted forecasts of - and calls for - more immigration from the young and growing populations of developing nations to make up the shortfall. Last year net immigration to Britain reached 185,000, an all-time record. The Immigration Minister, Barbara Roche, recently announced plans to attract migrants to fill specific skills shortages, such as in the computer industry. Last month Edmund Stoiber, the premier of Bavaria in southern Germany, called on Germans to have more babies as an alternative to more immigrants.
We are having too few children - to a worrying degree, the significance of which is scarcely recognised, he said. His calls echoed those of a fellow Christian Democrat who earlier this year stood on a platform of 'Children not Indians'.

In Britain the number of ethnic minority citizens has risen from a few tens of thousands in the 1950s, to more than 3 million - or around 6 per cent of the total population. While the number of whites is virtually static, higher fertility and net immigration means the number from ethnic minorities is growing by 2 to 3 per cent a year. One demographer, who didn't want to be named for fear of being called racist, said:
It's a matter of pure arithmetic that, if nothing else happens, non-Euro peans will become a majority and whites a minority in the UK. That would probably be the first time an indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority in its historic homeland.
Lee Jasper, race relations adviser to the Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, predicted a similar future, telling The Observer :
Where America goes, Europe follows 30 years later. There is a potential for whites to become a minority in some European countries.
In Britain, that is almost certain to happen in London, and in the relatively near future.
At the moment ethnic minorities are about 40 per cent in London. The demographics show that white people in London will become a minority by 2010, said Jasper.
We could have a majority black Britain by the turn of the century.

British National Party chairman Nick Griffin said:
I don't think there's any doubt that within this century, white people will be a minority in every country in the world.
For Griffin, however, it is a major cause of alarm:
Every people under the sun have a right to their place under the sun, and the right to survive. If people predicted that Indians would be a minority in India in 2100, everyone would be calling it genocide.
Yasmin Alibhai-Brown of the Foreign Policy Centre, who arrived in London from Uganda in 1972, said such fears are basically racist:
Only white people worry about this. It's because for such a long time the world has been their own. To talk about it feeds a particular type of racism that says that blacks breed like rabbits. There is an underlying assumption that says white is right.
*She added:
There is a white panic every time one part of their world seems to be passing over to anyone else. But it's foolish to panic about it. So what if we do become a majority? What difference does it make?
For Alibhai-Brown, the decline of whites is a question of redressing the balance after they colonised much of the world.
The empire strikes back really. There was this extraordinary assumption that white people could go and destroy peoples and it would have no consequence. It astounds me, she said.

But present trends have little chance of redressing the injustices of history. Native Americans used to have the lands to themselves but are now less than 1 per cent of the US population, with little chance of becoming a majority again. The biggest growth is among Latinos (largely derived from Spain), and Asians, particularly from China and the Phillippines. Jasper said the concerns of the British National Party are based on outdated ideas.
The racial mix of nations changes all the time. There is no way that ethnicity of blood can be tied to a specific geographic place in a global world. You can no longer look at ethnic states, saying that Germany is Anglo-Saxon and so on.Jasper felt the process would strengthen Britain.
Diversity strengthens a country. It makes it more exciting. We have hundreds of languages spoken, when we go out to eat we never eat English, we eat Thai or French or Indian. It makes London a very cool place to live and work. Nor does it seem likely that whites will become marginalised in terms of influences, even if their numbers decline. David Owen, of the Centre for Research in Ethnic Relations at Warwick Univer sity, said:
Population has never been the main determinant of influence - it's wealth and income. White people still have their hands on most of the levers of military and economic power.


Even so, Griffin warns that, as in Germany and the US, the rise of ethnic minorities will lead to a backlash.
It's going to put race to the top of the political agenda, he said. But that seems unlikely. Britain has far less of a track record of racism and right-wing extremism than other European countries. Alibhai-Brown insisted that rising numbers of ethnic minorities could even help reduce what racism there is:
The right-wing parties are growing in Somerset, not Brixton. The idea that more black people means more racism is not born out by the research. The more of us there are, it reduces racism.
Back in California, in a land built by immigrants, Bustamente put a positive spin on the end of the white majority:
If there are no majorities, then there's no minorities.
In Europe, with its 40,000-year-old indigenous white population, the rise of a non-white majority may not be greeted with such equanimity. •

In the United Kingdom, the number of people from ethnic minorities has risen from a few tens of thousands in 1950 to more than 3 million now.• In Italy, the birth rate is so low that, without immigration, the population is predicted to decline by 16 million by 2050. • The United States government predicts that non-hispanic whites will become a minority in the country by 2055. •The United Nations predicts that 98 per cent of world population growth until 2025 will be in developing nations. • The population of Europe is expected to drop from 25 per cent of the world total in 1900 to 7 per cent in the next 50 years.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/sep/03/race.world?CMP=share_btn_link

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Migration waves aren't new, except now it isn't white Huguenots but anyone from all four corners of the earth.
Except for those who have a problem with people who aren't white, I don't see what the problem is.

It is also a "problem" entirely created by white people who choose not to pop out as many sprogs.
Skin colour shouldn't be an issue; yes, there might be some genetic differences between people of different races but it's proven that it's environment factors such as culture that really cause differences.
I absolutely think all races should be treated as equal but I'm not sure all cultures can be deemed as that way.
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Original post by Tempest II
Skin colour shouldn't be an issue; yes, there might be some genetic differences between people of different races but I it's proven it's environment factors such as culture that really cause differences.
I absolutely think all races should be treated as equal but I'm not sure all cultures can be deemed as that way.


Right, but the effect will be the same. The problem is not racial differences, still it exists.
The Guardian-wannabe broadsheet.
Unless you believe that the non-'Anglo-Saxon' white people are inferior then why is it concerning? Demographics change all the time and will continue to do so. But we're all human beings and are - according to the Americans at least - 'created equal, endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights'. So let what will be, be.
Y'all criticise white people for not having a lot of children. Well, *clap* *clap* to the minorities who have lot's of children. After all, our population has only sky-nuclear-rocketed in the past century to 7 Billion people and growing. Good for them for create a strain on resource demand and ten-folding environmental pollution.

We should congratulate them because they're ethnic minorities and obviously everything they do, even if it causes the end of civilization and the destruction of the human race, is brilliant! White people are obviously bad, and minorities are obviously good because they're not the majority. And, anyway, white people clearly deserve this because they're stupid enough to not have enough children to use resources and take up space, unlike the minorities which have loads of children which isn't selfish at all.

This is not a good thing; open your eyes up.

P.S. The Guardian is not a good news source. They are biased and brainwash people with their opinion which is a very regressive and dangerous idea.

P.S.S. Reading what I've said y'all may get the impression that I'm denegrading minorities, I'm not, I'm simply swapping what some of y'all are saying about white people and using it against your idea of what is right.
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Original post by Mathemagicien
So the white race wins the Darwin Award, since they can't be bothered to have enough children to maintain their populations.


Before certain people inevitably try to weave this into a complex Jewish plot, the fact is that this is entirely the choice of white people - especially white men - who choose not to remain childless, or have only a single child. And the irony is, that the people who are concerned by these developments, still will likely not have many children themselves.


Japan has low birth rates yet doesn't bear an existentialist threat. It's not a matter of birth rates but a matter of weak borders and non-whites being politically incentivised by our governments to come to white countries. It is part of deliberate political and cultural will to make white people extinct, along with promoting "diversity" and shaming anyone who disagrees. If you had said in 1996 that white people would ever be a minority in the UK, people would look at you like you were crazy, no one knew immigration was ever going to be on the scale it has been, no one has ever consented to it, it has been forced on us and politicians have consistently lied about their intentions.
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Original post by Crassy
Japan has low birth rates yet doesn't bear an existentialist threat. It's not a matter of birth rates but a matter of weak borders and non-whites being politically incentivised by our governments to come to white countries. It is part of deliberate political and cultural will to make white people extinct, along with promoting "diversity" and shaming anyone who disagrees. If you had said in 1996 that white people would ever be a minority in the UK, people would look at you like you were crazy, no one knew immigration was ever going to be on the scale it has been, no one has ever consented to it, it has been forced on us and politicians have consistently lied about their intentions.


Japan's ageing population is an existential threat to their future prosperity.

There is no political or cultural movement to make white people 'extinct'.
It's so sad. We're becoming a minority in many areas of our own countries, which is really sad.

To those who say we need to have more children, the world population is already far too large. I think instead the emphasis should be on bringing down birth rates in high-birth rate places.

The ideal world population in my opinion would be between 3 and 4 billion.
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Original post by RayApparently
Unless you believe that the non-'Anglo-Saxon' white people are inferior then why is it concerning? Demographics change all the time and will continue to do so. But we're all human beings and are - according to the Americans at least - 'created equal, endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights'. So let what will be, be.


Demographics do not simply "change all the time", it is not some unavoidable natural thing, it is the result of deliberate policies that have been imposed on populations that never consented to them and have been culturally propagandised to not question or resist.

Look at the the USA for instance, the USA has always had immigration, yet up until recently it was 90% white, 10% black, because the immigration policies were set up in a way where it would not change the ethnic demographics. This was changed deliberately and now the USA is 60% white if that, the same thing that stopped mexicans, indians and asians before is what has been making them come in ever increasing numbers since the 70's -policy, not accident. The architects of the change in immigration policy (which happened in 1965) said it would not change the demographics of the USA, we can now see that as the bare faced lie it was.

But if you have any problem with that profound demographic and cultural shift turning your country into an unrecognisable identityless wasteland with no community or shared purpose? Oh your obviously a white supremacist who hates all non-whites! Not to mention the same thing has miraculously been forced on Western european countries, even countries like Sweden which had replacement level birth rates has gone from paradise to multicultural hell in 30 years, but it's all unavoidable and natural and good I guess. Better let in more "refugees" and give them free apartments and benefits.

And it's not a matter of "inferior" or "superior" or whatever other strawmen the establishment have been churning out for 50 years. It's about distinct ethnic groups being wiped out in the name of corporate interests and their own "tolerance". Guarantee if it were your ethnic group that faced the same thing you and no one else would cheer it on. The propaganda is deep.
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Original post by RayApparently
Japan's ageing population is an existential threat to their future prosperity.

There is no political or cultural movement to make white people 'extinct'.


Their future prosperity, perhaps, their future existence? No. For now they are doing fine even though economists have been preaching disaster since the 80's. You only need an ever growing population if your economies are built on the idea of infinite growth, which is a retarded idea everyone knows will burst eventually. Perhaps we should have an economic system that puts people and their culture first instead of the interests of internationalist elites with no stake in anything?

You also ignore the fact that diversity itself leads to low birth rates. White people in multicultural areas have less kids, they have less friends, feel more isolated etc. People have kids when they feel part of a community, community largely depends on a shared ethnic heritage. When you have a shared heritage in common with the people around you, there is a higher level of trust and happiness, people want to have kids more because they have stronger social circles, know all their children's friends parents etc.

The fact is multiculturalism is a corporate sham that is profoundly damaging to society and individuals.
There is a direct correlation between level of economic income and fertility rates, hence why the most advanced countries in the world often struggle with their country's birthrates. There are many non-white countries out there which also have a declining population: namely China, Japan, Vietnam, South Korea and the UAE.

However, this was an article published by the Guardian and a lot of the points made can easily be disproved.

In the USA, although the number of non-white Hispanics is expected to drop below 50%, the number of whites as a proportion of the population is expected to stay the same by 2060. At present, the number of non-white Hispanics is 62.2%, but in 2060 the number of whites (inluding Hispanics) is expected to be at 68.5%.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2015/demo/p25-1143.pdf

In Brazil, the number of whites is expected to increase. According to birth data published this year, the number of whites among 0-4 has increased to 48% whereas the number of blacks has decreased to 4.5%.

In the UK, by 2050 it is expected that that over 2/3 of the population will still be white with only 5% of the population identifying as black, which utterly disproves any mention of a black majority by 2050.
Original post by Crassy
Their future prosperity, perhaps, their future existence? No. For now they are doing fine even though economists have been preaching disaster since the 80's. You only need an ever growing population if your economies are built on the idea of infinite growth, which is a retarded idea everyone knows will burst eventually. Perhaps we should have an economic system that puts people and their culture first instead of the interests of internationalist elites with no stake in anything?

You also ignore the fact that diversity itself leads to low birth rates. White people in multicultural areas have less kids, they have less friends, feel more isolated etc. People have kids when they feel part of a community, community largely depends on a shared ethnic heritage. When you have a shared heritage in common with the people around you, there is a higher level of trust and happiness, people want to have kids more because they have stronger social circles, know all their children's friends parents etc.

The fact is multiculturalism is a corporate sham that is profoundly damaging to society and individuals.



There's no threat to the continued existence of Britain either. But Japan's aging population is going to exert a huge burden on their economy - to an extent this has already begun.

I doubt many Londoners feel more isolated than those living in other parts of our nation.

Multiculturalism is about culture, not race.
Original post by Mathemagicien
So the white race wins the Darwin Award, since they can't be bothered to have enough children to maintain their populations.



Before certain people inevitably try to weave this into a complex Jewish plot, the fact is that this is entirely the choice of white people - especially white men - who choose not to remain childless, or have only a single child. And the irony is, that the people who are concerned by these developments, still will likely not have many children themselves.


No.

Japan has a declining population, yet their country has remained homogeneous as a result of having a government that stands up for the national identify of their country.

The problem shouldn't be about white fertility rates, as a decline in the global population should be welcomed, but regarding uncontrolled immigration which has destroyed the face of Europe. Many developed countries in Asia have problems with their fertility rates but still have a national identity as a result of not having a culture which appeases political correctness and multiculturalism.
Original post by Crassy
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Technology and rising average income has also driven the change in migration patterns. A poor family in Western China would now be able to migrate to another country when that would have been financially and technologically impossible over fifty years ago.

I also disagree with the idea that only a homogenous society can have a feeling of 'community or shared purpose'.
Original post by RayApparently
There's no threat to the continued existence of Britain either. But Japan's aging population is going to exert a huge burden on their economy - to an extent this has already begun.

I doubt many Londoners feel more isolated than those living in other parts of our nation.

Multiculturalism is about culture, not race.


Japan is not going to open its borders, not only because of the Nationalist Party's huge majority, but also because there isn't a mandate to do so.

Japan has heavily invested in robotics to replace unskilled sectors of the economy. Although Japan will face challenges in the future, they most certainly don't have to open their doors.


Look, no one is forcing White people to not have children. It's just Western culture, other developed countries experience decreasing birth rates for the natives, and the descendants of immigrants usually become just like the natives and have a decreasing birth rate. Nothing wrong with it.

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