Should I choose Warwick over Manchester??

My friends dilemma: Got an offer from Warwick but Manchester called him and said they'd like to offer him a place too (originally he wasn't in Warwick). This is for English literature.

He's visited both and liked them both.

Is Warwick the obvious choice?

My friends dilemma: Got an offer from Warwick but Manchester called him and said they'd like to offer him a place too (originally he wasn't in Warwick). This is for English literature.

He's visited both and liked them both.

Is Warwick the obvious choice?

Definitely Warwick over Manchester, the average student tends to have stronger grades and applications.

Warwick is by far the obvious choice.

REF rankings, stronger.
UK rankings, stronger.
LinkedIn rankings, stronger.
Student body average grade, stronger.
World rankings, in the same tier- not much to say.
Reputation, stronger. (It has exchanges and research connections with the Ivies, as well as the other strong universities such as UC, Tokyo, Monash, Sydney- building another campus in California).

The students at Warwick tend to have stronger grades and stronger applications.

Warwick.

World rankings, in the same tier- not much to say.

Reputation, stronger. (It has exchanges and research connections with the Ivies, as well as the other strong universities such as UC, Tokyo, Monash, Sydney- building another campus in California).

Not really true, Manchester is far ahead in world rankings, average student body grade is irrelevant, uk rankings don't mean f all, it's leagues ahead in research and for sciences (especially physics) Warwick doesn't really come close both in reputation and historical contributions.

Non of this even matters anyway, there's no obvious choice and op should choose where he likes the most.

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You couldn't be more wrong. Check the REF rankings yourself, sorry, but where is Manchester? Talk about research and laugh at yourself. Warwick is far stronger than Manchester. You can get into Manchester with nearly any set of A Levels. Physics isn't even all fantastic at Manchester, why the hell is the entry so high when- mentioned THEMSELVES- that hardly any of their student actually achieve those grades. They're not in top 10 for REF whereas Warwick wipes them out the water.

Also, let's talk rankings. Manchester is above LSE and Warwick in the QS rankings, but by a few ranks, I mean they're all top 50. But who cares, everyone KNOWS that LSE and Warwick are better regardless to Manchester doing a bit better than them in the rankings. You don't get quality students from Manchester. Funnily enough, if you look also at every single private school in the UK, none of them target Manchester. These are the best schools the UK has to offer yet if you look at their yearly leavers destinations, Manchester hardly ever comes up. It's always Oxbridge, LSE, Imperial, UCL, Warwick, King's, Durham, Edinburgh, Bath, St Andrews and the lower academics go to Exeter. Warwick has a far stronger reputation. Face it. Manchester is full of C grade students, of which I know many. Talk to Manchester professors yourself, the quality of students are... Manchester holds a **** brand. It's in the same league as Liverpool, Sheffield, Southampton, Queen Mary, Newcastle. Not the same tier as Warwick. It's annoying that there are a few people on TSR talking complete **** and making Manchester sound like the next best thing after Oxbridge. It's not. Stick to the average name it holds. Good luck OP!!!!!

Lol, oh dear, clearly I touched a nerve.

In 2008 Manchester was both top 10 and higher than Warwick then in 2014 Warwick was higher, really mate just chill out with these precious REF rankings. "Physics isn't even all fantastic at Manchester" Hahaha oh please, educate yourself on the history of Physics and tell that to the multitude of nobel laureates that came from Manchester. As for the A*A*A entry, almost all of them achieve it and not only that they achieve similar ucas points to Imperial students. Then you have Warwick Physics students and their A*AA entry req which is pretty cute but understandable given it's in a much lower league than Manchester in that regard, sorry to break it to you.

This is just childish rambling and personal opinion, it pretty much boils down to "oh but everyone knows Warwick is better so that's all that matters" and "it doesn't matter that Manchester is ranked higher because I said so". **** me nobody is saying it's the next best thing after Oxford you pleb, but it's certainly not an average RG uni.

UCL and LSE have AAB courses too, and half of Oxford's courses are only AAA.

Although, I do agree with you that KCL is not on the same level as Oxbridge, LSE and ICL, or UCL and Warwick.

Choose somewhere based on your visit and what kind of university life you want, not on some biased opinions of an unrepresentative collection of students.

And avoid discriminating based on 'prestige' or 'reputation' - those things are borderline irrelevant and if you're choosing university A over university B solely because its slightly more academic, you're doing it wrong. Choose somewhere that you like and want to study.