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Angela Merkel should get the Nobel Peace Prize for helping refugees

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Should she also win a Nobel peace prize for the rapes and murders of Germans in her country as a direct result of the mass immigration she has allowed?
Original post by ValerieKR
Christianity has not had a total reformation, just as Islam hasn't either. You know there is still a huge homophobic sentiment in Africa driven by Christianity? Which results in thousands of deaths every year?

I'm not an 'apologist' I'm a 'reasonist'
Your 'no leader of islam has come out in favour of allowing homosexuality' is BS

Your 'we face total annihilation' comment is HS and you know it. I believe you've bought into 'fear-mongering' - maybe cutting down on the Alex Jones will help.


Africa? Most countries in Africa are engulfed in mass poverty, corruption and starvation. The treatment of gays and lesbians is not and should not be a priority.

Many Islamic countries such as Tunisia and Morocco have not been tormented by war and corruption, yet these countries still imprison their own members of society if they engage in sexual activity with the same sex. In fact, only Bosnia and Herzegovina and Albania have signed the UN's declaration of nondiscrimination against the LGBT community and 52% of Muslims living here in Britain believe homosexuality should be illegal.

So, please stop pandering to the leftist bandwagon because you're embarrassing yourself.
Original post by Iridocyclitis
A tiny amount of incidents involving a tiny amount of refugees does not mean her humanitarian policy has been unsuccessful.


70,000+ crimes committed by refugees in the last year. Hardly a minority.
Original post by Mathemagicien
Did you just assume their religion?!?

Being Muslim is a big part of their identity. If you accept transgenders as their chosen gender, why not accept people who identify as muslims - including all the ones who give it bad PR - as muslim?


A modern day Muslim value is that 'gang rape is bad' - the same way that a modern day Christian value is 'stoning homosexuals for being homosexuals is bad'.

The same way that not discriminating against people based on race means you aren't racist - it doesn't matter if you identify as being racist - you aren't.
Original post by Willdono
70,000+ crimes committed by refugees in the last year. Hardly a minority.


Compare it to the total to determine if it's a minority of not? :s
Original post by Iridocyclitis
Who agrees?

What she did was brave and nobel, and she has stood her ground in the face of intense criticism from the right. She has given a safe home to countless refugees who have been fleeing war and terrible conditions.


Cue loads of right wingers frothing on about all the terrible things Syrians have done. (Many of them exaggerated by the media of course.)

I think you've made a very good post and history will look kindly on her for doing it. Germany will one day be a stronger country to, as it is good for any nation to have racial mixing - just look at Britain as an example, our long history is full of waves of inward migration.
Original post by Razamataz666
yea she should get that award, after all its not like rape has increased tenfold, the German economy had heavily suffered and they are facing the destruction of their culture, its not like we have had a summer of terrorist attacks there or refugee centers have had to be separated due to refugees murdering or severely injuring gay refugees or the fact that a small proportion are actually fleeing war, the rest are looking for benefits - sure she deserves a peace prize, if Obama can have one why not.


The rape claims were wildly exaggerated, they were distorted by media outlets and by right wing reportage on neo-Nazi websites.
http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/false-rape-culture/questioning-the-rape-narrative-in-cologne-germany/

The German economy is most assuredly not suffering.

There have been some minor incidents and attacks, but also a lot of very good stories about how refugees are coping in Europe.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-crisis-three-stories-from-syrians-who-have-made-a-new-life-in-the-west-10497136.html
Angela Merkel single-handedly destroyed her country and you think she deserves a Peace Prize?
Original post by ValerieKR
If they gang rape people they aren't real muslims.


But if you beat your wife, you are.
"Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand."
Stop trying to creep around Islamic terror and crime by claiming it "isn't Islamic" or "they're not true Muslims". Denying the problem exists is not helpful
Original post by TheTechN1304
Angela Merkel single-handedly destroyed her country and you think she deserves a Peace Prize?


:lolwut:

Please provide evidence that Germany is now 'destroyed'. :rolleyes:
Original post by 1010marina
But if you beat your wife, you are.
"Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand."
Stop trying to creep around Islamic terror and crime by claiming it "isn't Islamic" or "they're not true Muslims". Denying the problem exists is not helpful


'If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.' - Stop trying to creep around KKK terror and crime by claiming it 'isn't Christian/American' Denying the problem exists is not helpful - we should ban Christianity.
Original post by TheTechN1304
Could you get any more naive?


Can you be any more terrified of 1.2 billion people?
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Original post by Iridocyclitis
A tiny amount of incidents involving a tiny amount of refugees does not mean her humanitarian policy has been unsuccessful.


This map reports all the crimes committed by migrants (by category): https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1_rNT3k2ZXB-f9z-2nSFMIBQKXCs

I wouldn't call these "a tiny amount of incidents".
Original post by Fullofsurprises
Cue loads of right wingers frothing on about all the terrible things Syrians have done. (Many of them exaggerated by the media of course.)

I think you've made a very good post and history will look kindly on her for doing it. Germany will one day be a stronger country to, as it is good for any nation to have racial mixing - just look at Britain as an example, our long history is full of waves of inward migration.


I agree - Merkel's policy will enrich Germany. It will address their ageing population crisis, economically, and it will also enrich them, culturally, with increased levels of diversity which leads to a more tolerant and multicultural society.
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Reply 34
Original post by ValerieKR
'If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.' - Stop trying to creep around KKK terror and crime by claiming it 'isn't Christian/American' Denying the problem exists is not helpful - we should ban Christianity.


Christians generally don't think that the Bible is the true word of God. That's the difference.
Reply 35
Original post by Iridocyclitis
I agree - Merkel's policy will enrich Germany. It will address their ageing population crisis, economically, and it will also enrich them, culturally, with increased levels of diversity which leads to a more tolerant and multicultural society.

It's crazy that she answered seriously to your obvious trolling.
Original post by Iridocyclitis
By a tiny minority not representative of the whole. What % of refugees?


Completely irrelevant point. Doesn't change the fact that she allowed in that minority which caused huge amounts of irreparable damage.
Original post by Josb
Christians generally don't think that the Bible is the true word of God. That's the difference.


Neither do Muslims.
The problem is the fundamentalist Muslims and the fundamentalist Christians.
Granted, a higher fraction of Muslims are fundamentalist than Christians - but it still is a fraction of the 1.2 billion people following the religion this guy wants to ban.

A couple of hundreds years ago a much larger fraction of Christians were fundamentalist than Muslims are fundamentalist now - banning it will only divide and push more people to extreme viewpoints.
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Reply 38
Original post by ValerieKR
Neither do Muslims.



Muslims DO think that the Quran is the true word of God, fundamentalists or not. That makes reformation very difficult.
Original post by Josb
Muslims DO think that the Quran is the true word of God, fundamentalists or not. That makes reformation very difficult.


The definition of fundamentalist is believing it's the true word of God.

I know plenty of Muslims who don't follow the Quran on the stupid stuff.

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