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How do you integrate (1sinx) \surd (1-\sin x) given that π2x5π2 \frac{\pi }{2} \leq x \leq \frac{5\pi }{2} ?
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Original post by Ano123
How do you integrate (1sinx) \surd (1-\sin x) given that π2x5π2 \frac{\pi }{2} \leq x \leq \frac{5\pi }{2} ?


Use u=sin(x)u=sin(x)
Why isn't the 4 negative?

(Edexcel Jan 2006 C3 Q6a if you need to question)

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Original post by jamestg
Why isn't the 4 negative?

(Edexcel Jan 2006 C3 Q6a if you need to question)



It should be.. as far as I can see.
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Original post by jamestg
Why isn't the 4 negative?

(Edexcel Jan 2006 C3 Q6a if you need to question)




Ah I see, easy mistake to make :s-smilie: you've expanded cos(x-a) rather than cos(x+a) given in the question.
Original post by RDKGames
Use u=sin(x)u=sin(x)


What did you get?
Original post by SeanFM
Ah I see, easy mistake to make :s-smilie: you've expanded cos(x-a) rather than cos(x+a) given in the question.


Ahh I see, thank you! I need to be more careful next time :angry:
Original post by Ano123
What did you get?


Is that restriction for x supposed to mean the limits of integration? I'm unsure how significant it is, but to integrate that expression;

1sin(x).dx\displaystyle \int \sqrt{1-\text{sin}(x)} .dx

let u=sin(x)du=cos(x).dx\displaystyle u=sin(x) \rightarrow du=cos(x) .dx

1ucos(x).du\displaystyle \rightarrow \int \frac{\sqrt{1-u}}{cos(x)} .du

Draw yourself a right angled triangle. Use the fact that u=sin(x) and you will find that cos(x)=1u2cos(x)=\sqrt{1-u^2}

1u1u2.du=1u(1+u)(1u).du\displaystyle \rightarrow \int \frac{\sqrt{1-u}}{\sqrt{1-u^2}} .du = \int \frac{\sqrt{1-u}}{\sqrt{(1+u)(1-u)}} .du

and I'll let you finish that off.
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Original post by jamestg
Ahh I see, thank you! I need to be more careful next time :angry:


No worries, you learn more from mistakes than getting things right, and eventually for each topic you build a mental checklist (trig is probably the worst for it) of things to look out for. Eg radians/degrees, cancelling solutions, right range of solutions etc. And if you have to, underlining key bits of information given in the question.
Original post by Ano123
How do you integrate (1sinx) \surd (1-\sin x) given that π2x5π2 \frac{\pi }{2} \leq x \leq \frac{5\pi }{2} ?


Note that 1sinxsin2(x/2)2sin(x/2)cos(x/2)+cos2(x/2) \sqrt{1-\sin x}\equiv \sqrt{sin^2(x/2) -2\sin (x/2)\cos (x/2) + \cos^2 (x/2)}
(sin(x/2)cos(x/2))2sin(x/2)cos(x/2) \equiv \sqrt{(\sin (x/2)-\cos (x/2) )^2 } \equiv |\sin (x/2) - \cos (x/2)| .
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Original post by B_9710
This integral is not expected is C4 but you can still apply normal substitution methods.


What cud i do
Original post by youreanutter
What cud i do


Exactly that. Use substitution x=tanθx=\text{tan}\theta . The method itself is C3.

If you're asking "How do I know to substitute that?" then just start with y=arctan(x)y=\text{arctan}(x) and find dy/dx. The substitution is based off this result.
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Original post by RDKGames
Exactly that. Use substitution x=tanθx=\text{tan}\theta . The method itself is C3.

If you're asking "How do I know to substitute that?" then just start with y=arctan(x)y=\text{arctan}(x) and find dy/dx. The substitution is based off this result.


The substitution isn't based off that result. You could integrate 1/(1+x^2) independently without knowing the derivative of arctan x.
Original post by B_9710
The substitution isn't based off that result. You could integrate 1/(1+x^2) independently without knowing the derivative of arctan x.


As far as C3/C4 goes? How?
Original post by RDKGames
As far as C3/C4 goes? How?


It's not in C3/C4. But that doesn't change the methods for finding the integral.
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I've cooked STEP I 2007 Q3; STEP I 2007 Q1 has almost finished cooking in the oven too.

EDIT: STEP I 2007 Q1 ready too though I did some dodgy work when I ended up proving the general case in order to do show the special case.
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Just joining this thread in advance now...

I've dropped from Further Maths to just Maths, and I my applied unit will be M1...
I'm sad to no longer be doing FMaths, but it didn't match my career aspirations, and there was no way I was taking 4 subjects :lol:

I hate being in just a standard maths class already, though :lol:
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STEP I 2007 Q8 in the bag too. Will try more MAT and IYGB papers now.
It's GCSE question but I'm in year 13 so, and I need to revise GCSEstyle maths for UKCAT.

"A ford focus holds 13 gallons of petrol, how many litres of petrol can the car hold if 1 gallon is equivalent to 4.5 L? "

I tried two methods of working out, both of which I have used for other questions like this and I can't figure out which one is right since there aren't accessible answers.

Method 1:
1 gallon = 4.5 L
so
13 = 4.5 x 13 L = 58.5

Method 2 :
(1/4.5) x 13 = 2.88

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