Who will win the war in Syria?

Ambitious1999

So far the war in Syria is a stalemate. Assad forces are battling against FSA for the main heartland of western Syria with the help of Russia but not making any significant advances.

ISIS occupies most of Eastern and Northern Syria and is reclaiming land they recently lost to the Kurds and also pushing Assads forces back.

Coalition Airstrikes are having very little effect on ISIS. It seems the majority of strikes are against hospitals and schools like what happened to that 5 yr old last week.

I think in the end Syria can only be divided so there needs to be negotiations between 1) Regime 2) FSA 3) ISIS

The regime gets to occupy the entire west of Syria
The FSA gets Eastern Syria
ISIS gets Northern Syria.

For ISIS to be involved they must stop all terror activities against the west and respect human rights in their Syrian autonomous caliphate with UN monitors. Failure to do so will result in economic sanctions.

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I don't think you can call anybody a "winner" in Syria. The whole situation is desperately sad and awful.

Reply 3

username2810140

Original post by Ambitious1999

I think there will eventually be negotiations for a ceasefire. Part of this could see Assad excluded from further elections, although Russia, Iran etc. will not allow Syria to turn into Iraq no.2 with tens of thousands of american troops there.

ISIS, al nusra, kurdish fighters etc. will not be tolerated by Russia, Iran or Assads regime and will be crushed by everyone soon.
How can you even believe ISIS would be recognised by anyone..... Economic sanctions against extremists terrorists ?

Partition never helps and often leads to much worse, ex. South Sudan.
There will be a diplomatic solution when both sides stop supporting their sides, and seeing as Russia and Iran are the only side that has shown full commitment to air strikes and support, the regime will remain alive and well. A partition will not be accepted by anyone.
Plus, don't simplify this conflict, there are many more sides, beliefs and allies to deal with than simply 3 groups, all 3 accused of atrocities.

Reply 4

Imam of Haram

I don't think IS care about economic sanctions,

Reply 5

Rakas21

The idea that ISIS will ever stop attacking the west is ludicrous, these people are not attacking us because of our interventions in the Middle East or because they want our resources.. they are attacking us because they despise our very way of life, our values.

Since the US seems willing to bomb the Syrian Kurds for Turkey i expect that Assad will win so to speak although his population won't trust him and according to the UN it will take Syria 30 years to recover economically.

The point people miss though is that who wins in Syria does not matter, it is simply one battlefield in a wider war.

For the record though, allowing ISIS to form a functional state, functional economy and build a functional armed forces would be by far the stupidest thing that the west would have ever done, beyond anything that could be imagined. To enable an enemy would be idiocy beyond belief.

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slaven

Assad will win this war as he is the good guy protecting minorities like Christians and Shias in Syria, on other hand there are the western backed Sunni radical head chopers.

Reply 7

latisha88

There will be no winner in that Syrian war unless both group will come up in peace agreement which is impossible to happen right now.

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Pucizza

Nobody knows what will happen. Today, talks about a ceasefire between Russia and the US failed because of wide disagreement (arguably about Assad's future).

What could be realistic is that Assad will ultimately survive, but Syria will be broken up. The kurdish enclave may be recognized internationally. The FSA will have to hold ground to be able to claim it.

ISIS has to go, completely. What you say about negotiations with them under threat of economic sanctions is ludicrous, sorry.

Whatever happens to the country, I do hope that the war ends soon and Syria stays secular, albeit divided.

Reply 9

ELVsLP

"There are no winners in war..."

Reply 10

Pucizza

Original post by ELVsLP

"There are no winners in war..."

Tell that to WW2 Allied veterans :wink:

Reply 11

JamesN88

Original post by Ambitious1999

I don't know where you get your information from that contradicts every major news outlet. IS are losing ground on every front and on the verge of being kicked out of Iraq altogether once Mosul is recaptured. They've also lost their supply route from Turkey thanks to recent Kurdish advances.

IS are ****ed in other words.

Reply 12

JamesN88

Original post by slaven

Assad will win this war as he is the good guy protecting minorities like Christians and Shias in Syria, on other hand there are the western backed Sunni radical head chopers.

Good guy is a bit of an exaggeration. He's not a religious lunatic though so it's a good reason to support him compared to some of the other options.

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Reply 13

KimKallstrom

Original post by JamesN88

OP keeps on posting these threads talking about how ISIS are doing well and how we need to capitulate to them and every single time he gets demolished by people who actually know what they're talking about, unlike him who hasn't a clue.

You'd think he'd get bored of this same thing over and over again....*

Reply 14

JamesN88

Original post by KimKallstrom

Honestly man I'm starting to think he secretly wants them to win. How else could someone be in such denial about reality?

Reply 15

RF_PineMarten

Original post by Ambitious1999

ISIS have not reclaimed anything from the Kurdish forces, and the government-ISIS frontline has been pretty stable with no major advances by either side. Besieged Deir Ezzor is still holding out and there is no sign of it falling.

The rebels aren't just FSA, there are loads of different groups. Major ones are Nusra/Fatah al Sham and Ahrar al Sham, but there are countless others and it can vary from area to area. And "the FSA" isn't actually a unified army, it's just lots of different rebel groups that consider themselves part of it, operate under the FSA name and use their flag and symbols. It's more of an umbrella organisation.

Pretty much none of the coalition's air strikes have been against schools or hospitals. Unlike the Syrian and Russian air forces who hit them on a fairly regular basis (and it is one of them who is actually responsible for the incident with that boy whose image went viral - that strike had absolutely nothing to do with the anti-ISIS coalition).

As for "who will win", I really don't know. The Kurds might get some autonomy, which would be a victory for them. But as for the "main" war it's hard to tell. The war has swung from the government to the rebel side and back again many times before, even within just the past year (this time last year the rebels were on a high and people were predicting the regime's imminent downfall, then the government gained the advantage with the Russian intervention, now the rebels have fought back and it's a bit of a stalemate). For that reason we can't really predict who will "win".