TSR Med Students' Society Part VI

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What books do people recommend for clinical years? I've not bought a single book for preclinical, but figure it might be time to splash out to accompany wards... Main consensus seems to be Oxford handbook of clinical medicine and Kumar and clarke? What do people say

Reply 421

Etomidate

Original post by Xotol

OHCM +/- Foundation handbook & wikipedia.

Have a copy of K&C, don't think I opened it once during medical school.

Reply 422

Mutmit287

Original post by Xotol

Im preclinical and kumar and clarke is basically my bible for CBL.

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Reply 423

Ghotay

Original post by Etomidate

OHCM +/- Foundation handbook & wikipedia.

Have a copy of K&C, don't think I opened it once during medical school.

Me neither. That thing is way too big

I'd say if you weren't a textbook person for preclinical you probably won't suddenly become one for clinical. Get the OHCM and leave the rest

Reply 424

username2765258

Original post by Natalierm2707

Im preclinical and kumar and clarke is basically my bible for CBL.

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People in my year say the same, but I find it completely incomprehensible. I don't know why, I can just read pages and find that I have taken in no information whatsoever.

Reply 425

Mutmit287

Original post by Brockle

People in my year say the same, but I find it completely incomprehensible. I don't know why, I can just read pages and find that I have taken in no information whatsoever.

I know what you mean, i find a lot of the info is brilliant but sometimes its overcomplicated and hard to understand. It is the reccomended textbook for my course so it does help that the lecturers follow it.

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Reply 426

Xotol

Original post by Etomidate

OHCM +/- Foundation handbook & wikipedia. Have a copy of K&C, don't think I opened it once during medical school.

Original post by Ghotay

Me neither. That thing is way too big

I'd say if you weren't a textbook person for preclinical you probably won't suddenly become one for clinical. Get the OHCM and leave the rest

Yeah, I'm allergic to massive textbooks, so not buying the big K&C one. I was thinking about the pocket essentials one. I heard it helps you understand concepts the OHCM doesn't go through clearly?*

Reply 427

Ghotay

Original post by Xotol

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Yeah, I'm allergic to massive textbooks, so not buying the big K&C one. I was thinking about the pocket essentials one. I heard it helps you understand concepts the OHCM doesn't go through clearly?*

Couldn't tell you, I've always relied on google for such problems

Reply 428

Ghotay

On a separate note, does anyone know any good resources for:

(1) T&O as relevant to A&E. Basic fracture management stuff for the non-orthopaedically inclined

(2) Basic antibiotic therapy. I have never found a way to make that stuff stick, and have rarely received any good advice beyond 'learn it', or crazy giant tables that make my brain ache

Reply 429

Asklepios

Original post by Ghotay

(2) Basic antibiotic therapy. I have never found a way to make that stuff stick, and have rarely received any good advice beyond 'learn it', or crazy giant tables that make my brain ache

This.

Wish there was a way to logically work it out based on mechanism of action and stuff, but doesn't seem like it :frown:

Reply 430

Letournel

Original post by Ghotay

For Ortho i use both Apleys consise system of Orthopaedics and Fractures and the illustrated colour text of Orthopaedics and Trauma by McRae. Just skip the sections on congenital/elective.

Reply 431

lcsurfer

Original post by Ghotay

1. oxford handbook of EM and also the clinical specialties one I like for Ortho/A&E*
2.I've had to make flashcards to learn it, its rote learning it also a lot of it is trust guideline too (i don't know about how it works i just learn you treat this infection with this Abx)... It's boring but just writing it out not small flash cards helped me hugely*

Reply 432

Beska

Original post by Asklepios

This.

Wish there was a way to logically work it out based on mechanism of action and stuff, but doesn't seem like it :frown:

"I would refer to appropriate Trust guidelines prior to administration of an antibiotic, however a good bet would be... <your broad spectrum of choice/your narrow spectrum of choice>"

Unless you say give nitrofurantoin for pneumonia or something I don't think you can go far wrong with that.

e: I hate/disagree with medical schools requiring or testing the knowledge that antibiotic x treats bacteria y because that may not be the case clinically and that's not how you'd do it in practice, so it's literally pointless and I'd argue one of the most pointless things it's possible for medical schools to throw at you. A few to make the point is probably be ok but huge tables is just so educationally pointless. MC&S and let microbiology run their magic. Why you need to know the 2nd line treatment for t. studentroomium is beyond me.

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Reply 433

Jckc123

I was having simulation teaching today as well and I got asked about antibiotics for neutropenic sepsis.
I was just giving out broad spec antibiotics (tazo, genta) and the consultant was like... Follow local trust guidelines. :colondollar:

Reply 434

Ghotay

Thanks for the ortho recommendations guys, will be checking those out

Unfortunately my med school is rather fond of giving MCQs on antibiotic therapy, which is why I feel like I need to learn them. It does seem like a stupid and impossible task though

Reply 435

Ezme39

Original post by Brockle

People in my year say the same, but I find it completely incomprehensible. I don't know why, I can just read pages and find that I have taken in no information whatsoever.

Personally I'm a massive fan of Kumar and Clark. I love the depth it goes into :smile:

although, I am pre-clinical so I'm not really using it that often

Reply 436

That Bearded Man

Oxford Handbook of Clinical Medicine, I recommend Essential Surgery too, since you tend to get grilled.

Reply 437

That Bearded Man

Original post by Ghotay

"I will refer to my local Trusts guidance on safe antibiotic prescribing"

Trusts vary, it would surely have to be barn door obvious for antibiotic prescribing. Don't say Tazocin though, for such a common drug it's never an answer.

Reply 438

That Bearded Man

Folks, being in the MHOC has made me wonder if we should have a general chat for medical students. Everything in these chats is so medicine course orientated, could we do with a more general chat thread?

Say, about Jeremy Hunt?

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