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High salary and honest people, is it possible?

I want to do a job where the work environment is filled with honest and down-to-earth people, but there is a problem:

The jobs I graduated for (e.g. IT consultant) involve working for large corporations, filled with these disgusting, vapid, materialistic, right-wing piece of sh*t, anti-democratic, horrible human beings.
I don't want to work in an environment where everyone is a double-edged, right-wing ******* who will fakely smile in my face and backstab me.
I've done my internship at one of these corporations and I got so sick of their double-edged faces, their despicable fake smiles and their constant whining and importance over money and material.
Unfortunately, as I've seen all over LinkedIn, IT people working for large corporations support Donald Trump, which is an abomination in itself.

A high-paying, career-promising job with lots of benefits, company car, insurance and down-to-earth and honest people, is it an impossible mission? I heard working in the medical sector should make my dream come true.

Any ideas?

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Original post by 571122
I want to do a job where the work environment is filled with honest and down-to-earth people, but there is a problem:

The jobs I graduated for (e.g. IT consultant) involve working for large corporations, filled with these disgusting, vapid, materialistic, right-wing piece of sh*t, anti-democratic, horrible human beings.
I don't want to work in an environment where everyone is a double-edged, right-wing ******* who will fakely smile in my face and backstab me.
I've done my internship at one of these corporations and I got so sick of their double-edged faces, their despicable fake smiles and their constant whining and importance over money and material.
Unfortunately, as I've seen all over LinkedIn, IT people working for large corporations support Donald Trump, which is an abomination in itself.

A high-paying, career-promising job with lots of benefits, company car, insurance and down-to-earth and honest people, is it an impossible mission? I heard working in the medical sector should make my dream come true.

Any ideas?


Big tech company (google, facebook, uber etc) or startup. Good luck passing the CV screen and interview questions though.

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Wait how do you know which IT Corps support Donald Trump?

It would be funny as most of these places I presume are filled with imported workers as their pay and conditions are poorer.
Reply 3
Aren't big tech companies full of those corporate vapid guys?

I've had 5 interviews, they all loved my (creative) CV, I was able to answer all the technical interview questions with full confidence and correctness, but I completely screwed up the social questions (because I'm a sociopath).

If anyone didn't know yet, the reason many fresh graduates don't get jobs (like I was taught during my management course at uni) is because companies seek a specific social profile. Not matching this profile will get you rejected. If they're looking for an **** and I'm not an ****, then I won't get accepted. The game goes for accepting their stupid little company culture with their stupid jokes I don't care about and their fake social climate.
Being socially capable (soft skills) has become mandatory nowadays.. which is of course not such good for some of us.
Original post by 571122


A high-paying, career-promising job with lots of benefits, company car, insurance and down-to-earth and honest people, is it an impossible mission? I heard working in the medical sector should make my dream come true.

Any ideas?


Third Sector
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Original post by TrojanH
Wait how do you know which IT Corps support Donald Trump?

It would be funny as most of these places I presume are filled with imported workers as their pay and conditions are poorer.

I stated in my post that I saw their pro-Trump posts on LinkedIn. Some of these corporations even break corporate policy, sending out internal spam e-mails that demand you vote right-wing, but luckily these are rare occurrences.

I am not sure what you mean by 'imported workers', but all of the people there belong to one giant corporation and they are all consultants. The problem with those ****** is their fake personality and their lack of maturity.
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Original post by threeportdrift
Third Sector

They pay sucks there, unless you're in management.
Original post by 571122
They pay sucks there, unless you're in management.


Well the pay sucks everywhere unless you are in management!
Original post by 571122
Aren't big tech companies full of those corporate vapid guys?

I've had 5 interviews, they all loved my (creative) CV, I was able to answer all the technical interview questions with full confidence and correctness, but I completely screwed up the social questions (because I'm a sociopath).

If anyone didn't know yet, the reason many fresh graduates don't get jobs (like I was taught during my management course at uni) is because companies seek a specific social profile. Not matching this profile will get you rejected. If they're looking for an **** and I'm not an ****, then I won't get accepted. The game goes for accepting their stupid little company culture with their stupid jokes I don't care about and their fake social climate.
Being socially capable (soft skills) has become mandatory nowadays.. which is of course not such good for some of us.


None of the people I know at the silicon valley esque tech companies fit what you say. People there are genuine, and most are left wing/couldn't care less about donald trump. I hear there's a strong effective altruism subculture at Google, which means there are a lot of people committing x% (where x is a fairly high proportion) of their salaries to charity every year.

And for big silicon valley esque companies, all that matters is your technical interview (they can last 3-5 hours all told), the social stuff is mainly a formality.


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You must think the sun shines out your ass lmao, but seriously, more earnings= more taxes = want to be taxed less = votes conservative.
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Original post by threeportdrift
Well the pay sucks everywhere unless you are in management!

IT consultants have quite the attractive starter's salary and benefits. They're one pay/two grades below management.
Let's just say with that salary I could pay all my bills and still be able to dine out like a crazy man (like they do) in fancy restaurants, buy a nice fancy car with lots of options and.. well, basically leading a comfortable life.
Original post by 571122
I stated in my post that I saw their pro-Trump posts on LinkedIn. Some of these corporations even break corporate policy, sending out internal spam e-mails that demand you vote right-wing, but luckily these are rare occurrences.

I am not sure what you mean by 'imported workers', but all of the people there belong to one giant corporation and they are all consultants. The problem with those ****** is their fake personality and their lack of maturity.


One mind is telling me you're exaggerating a few things here.

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Original post by 571122
I stated in my post that I saw their pro-Trump posts on LinkedIn. Some of these corporations even break corporate policy, sending out internal spam e-mails that demand you vote right-wing, but luckily these are rare occurrences.

I am not sure what you mean by 'imported workers', but all of the people there belong to one giant corporation and they are all consultants. The problem with those ****** is their fake personality and their lack of maturity.


imported workers i mean more *****y corporations have H1B workers (america), i dunno what its called here, but they tend to treat them poorly and blame that their the problem etc. i just presumed pro-trump places would be more likely to be guilty of that.

but nah man you just gotta do your own thing, find people or even suggest an alternative or broader way of thinking. people dont think the same way forever anyway.
Original post by 571122
IT consultants have quite the attractive starter's salary and benefits. They're one pay/two grades below management.
Let's just say with that salary I could pay all my bills and still be able to dine out like a crazy man (like they do) in fancy restaurants, buy a nice fancy car with lots of options and.. well, basically leading a comfortable life.


avg salary in london is like 30k man its not that great?
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Original post by IronicalMan
You must think the sun shines out your ass lmao, but seriously, more earnings= more taxes = want to be taxed less = votes conservative.

That depends; the salary I would be at as an IT consultant would still leave me quite comfortable after taxes, whereas if I would be doing some low-grade job, like working at a grocery store, I would just or barely be able to pay bills..
Reply 15
Original post by TrojanH
avg salary in london is like 30k man its not that great?

Bingo! That's exactly the IT consultant's starter salary.
Original post by JohnGreek
Do a law conversion, practise in IP law for a few years, and hope that some big City Law firm comes in to sweep you off your feet. You are guaranteed to find the nicest, softest, gentlest people you've ever seen in your entire life.


Not sure if sarcasm.

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Original post by 571122
That depends; the salary I would be at as an IT consultant would still leave me quite comfortable after taxes, whereas if I would be doing some low-grade job, like working at a grocery store, I would just or barely be able to pay bills..


Well I think you live in America, but poorer=votes to get better benefits/gov spending. Richer, usually, logically speaking would want to keep more money as they're taxed more than what they would use in taxes. That's why poor area's vote for a socialist party and richer for conservative, unless the area has a high number of rich liberals and not many people, in which case a liberal party may get elected, like the lib dems. From a UK perspective.
Original post by 571122
Bingo! That's exactly the IT consultant's starter salary.


well yeah, i mean it is pretty ****EN great, it is fairly high grad salary, but a lot of people suggest that in London that salary is more akin to 10k up north.
Of course it's possible!

My dad is an IT manager, is very well paid, and is completely honest. I did work experience at his work and everyone was lovely, even when I messed up somebody's code so they had to reboot their system :frown: They're all currently sponsoring me for running for GOSH as well, so they're not all money-hungry and evil!

There are awful people in all careers, though generally if you're nice, people won't want to backstab you.

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