Mental Oxbridge complex?

Ironically, you remind me of an alpha particle, extremely slow and unable penetrate through the most simple things :/.

Just saying but @physicsmaths recently got into Cambridge to study Maths

Really? After what he said above? 😂

That kind of reveals a conflict of interest with regards to his bias on the topic.

Yeah, I'm one of his stalker fanboys. His insurance was Imperial.

Doesn't the fact that he put his insurance as Imperial agree with what I'm saying with regards to the same applicants applying to both unis and having A*A*A then?

I'm surprised my physics joke didn't get more laughs to be quite honest.

I'm not sure because his qualifications were different from the average applicant. Pretty sure he took a gap year after getting A-levels and did more A-levels (or resits IDK) in Physics and Additional Further Maths. From his profile he had an A*A* offer with S, 1 in STEP from Cambridge and AA offer from Imperial, but still got in with BB and 1,1 in STEP.

B grades at Cambridge?

Edit: How do you get 1s in STEP, then Bs?

B grades at Cambridge?

Edit: How do you get 1s in STEP, then Bs?

And... the thread devolves into an Oxbridge versus Imperial contest.

(Nice to see someone standing up for Imperial for once, lately that honour has been reserved for Warwick/King's )

You stated that Oxford was better for Engineering in your previous post regarding firming lower offers from Oxford over higher offers from Imperial, because Oxford was "better".It's not the students, it's general everyday people at my sixth form. It seems to have a better domestic and global reputation for some reason.You could argue that many people who fail to get an offer from Imperial also get A*A*A, as they would of likely been predicted this before they applied in order to meet the requirements for the A*A*A courses.Again, I'm not sure the slacking off bit due to lower entry requirements is realistic. These guys/girls are evidentially very hard workers and just because they need AAA doesn't mean they're going to work to the bare-minimum. One could in fact argue they'd be encouraged to work harder. I'm predicted A*AA, though most of my medical schools need AAA. Does that mean I'm going to slack off? No.

He should stick to maths, because debates aren't his thing, clearly.

Doesn't the fact that he put his insurance as Imperial agree with what I'm saying with regards to the same applicants applying to both unis and having A*A*A then?

I'm surprised my physics joke didn't get more laughs to be quite honest.

You cannot conclusively state that more UCAS points = better A Level grades. It generally means more A Levels taken.

Imperial has standard offers of A*A*AA for all engineering courses, with A*AA-A*A*A for nearly everything else. This is easily higher than Oxford's, but marginally lower than Cambridge's - but since I was comparing it to the average Oxbridge student - Imperial comes out on top (as you need AAA to get into lots of courses at Oxford).

GG.

No, I literally didn't. I said people firm Oxford over Imperial because "it's Oxford". It's the prestige, the name.

Meh, whatever.

Being predicted A*A*A doesn't mean you'll get it. And there's no need to argue, just find some numbers for how many Imperial rejects get A*A*A and then find some numbers for how many science Oxford/Cambridge rejects get A*A*A (if you can). I'm pretty sure Cambridge science rejects will get it more often, considering how many of them go to Imperial.



not sure what you mean, that was a winning roast



No, him putting his insurance as A*A*A (as well as me, for the record), shows that getting those grades is piss easy for most successful Cambridge applicants.

yeah it got no laughs because it was dead mate

Also, if you'd remember, I never stated that Imperial was better than Cambridge, I said it was better than Oxford, specifically for engineering. The other guy went off-tangent to something separate and you went along with him.

Most Cam students achieve higher than the standard offer, so the offer's just another hoop to jump through having got an offer. The average science student gets ~3A*, whereas the standard offer requires 2A*, and the average arts student gets ~2A*, whereas just one is required in the offer. The offers Cam gives out are usually exceeded by most offer holders. When Cam increased the standard offer in sciences a couple of years ago, it was just changing it closer to what most offer holders achieved anyway.

Imperial probably have high offers as a way of selecting applicants i.e. only the best make the offer.

It is in this sense that standard offers may not be representative of the calibre of the students selected.

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To remind you what you originally posted (and note it was a general statement, not specifically to do with engineering):



You still haven't shown this to be true. Your entire proposition is a guess.

You yourself offer an inflated statistic on the proportion of Oxford students gaining A*A*A or greater. As I said, this isn't something that can easily be concluded, due to a lack of data on Imperial's part.

I want to know if anyone has this, or if anyone could help me out.

I've developed this complex recently that only Oxbridge is good enough, and all other unis are rubbish. I know it's unhealthy to think that way- I think it's probably due to me wanting to prove myself to my family? They're all ridiculously high achieving and all that, and I feel like I'd be a disappointment unless I got into Oxbridge, even if I got into one of the other Russel Group unis. Becuase I fell back in one of my As papers, thus severely weakening my grade (which would have been very good if it were just the coursework), unfortunately... Cambridge isn't in my sights anymore (though I'm still going to try applying)

Does anyone have any ideas that I could get over this complex? Or are any of you are suffering from the same thing?

What do you mean inflated?

Source: https://www.ox.ac.uk/media/global/wwwoxacuk/localsites/gazette/documents/statisticalinformation/admissionsstatistics/Admissions_Statistics_2013.pdf

Acceptances for 2013 entry: A-levels
A*A*A*+ : 37.1%
A*A*A : 27.2%
A*AA : 24.0%
Add A*A*A*+ and A*A*A = 37.1% + 27.2% = 64.3% : where's the inflation?

And you admit your assertion can't be concluded due to your inability to provide any evidence at all. I gave you the numbers for Cambridge and Oxford. You failed to find anything for Imperial.

I'm glad you have withdrawn it.

Great talking with you.

Also bearing in mind that it was one of these 'Oxbridge' undergraduates, who called me a 'traitor to my race', because i married a black woman. Which just goes to show that they still seem to live in a backwards, cliquey, ivory tower, despite their *good* grades!!!!!