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Original post by Fullofsurprises
The 'Anglo-Saxon Press'?

Are you writing through a timewarp from 1890?


:lol:
Original post by KimKallstrom
Yeah SJWs are among the most closed-mind, hive-mentality, blinkered drones on the planet. Which is funny because that's exactly what they call anybody who dares to have a different opinion to them on anything. You wouldn't expect these safe space types to have the fortitude to test their views against anything contrarian which is how they manage to be so detached from reality most of the time,


Sure. How many right-wingers read Socialist Worker? Not many? Wow, what a closed-minded bunch.
Original post by generallee
Beitbart is worth reading, definitely.

It is an antidote to the MSM, lthough the bias needs watching definitely.

My philosophy is to read everything I realistically can, especially the thoughts of your enemy. That is why I read the Guardian, too. Mostly online, because its £2 cover price is ridiculous.

It is interesting (but not in the least surprising) that the SJW's on here don't have the same mindset. The fact that they never read it, only articles which tell them what to thimk, says volumes


Get back to me once you start reading Socialist Worker regularly to show how much you think outside of the box. The Guardian's right-wing equivalent would be something like the Telegraph, not Breitbart.
Love Milo <3

I read it for a few writers (Raheem Kassam and
Milo Yiannopoulos) that I enjoy.

According to some ITT I'm just a white nationalist racist though (lol). I think a large problem with the perception of the site is people read a few upvoted comments about it on facebook or that infamous Hillary "alt-right" speech, read one or two articles that go against their already decided point of view on things (Trump or the migrant crisis) and instantly discard it on that alone.

Read Breitbart with an open mind and as part of a larger collection of media sources and I think you will find it serves its purpose fine. Read only one side of things left or right and you are only getting your own (often bias and inaccurate) safe space narrative that suits your views.

For the record I also read the guardian from time to time, even if the large majority of their writers I disagree with.
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Original post by Fullofsurprises
The 'Anglo-Saxon Press'?

Are you writing through a timewarp from 1890?


He's from continental Europe? Hungary I think.

The French are the same, they talk about the Anglo Saxons when they mean the US and the UK.

Blissfully unaware that WASP's are a tiny (if privileged) minority Stateside and that it is politically incorrect to use the term in the UK.
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Original post by generallee
He's from continental Europe? Hungary I think.

The French are the same, they talk about the Anglo Saxons when they mean the US and the UK.

Blissfully unaware that WASP's are a tiny (if privileged) minority Stateside and that it is politically incorrect to use the term in the UK.


What's a WASP?
Original post by JamesN88
What's a WASP?


White Anglo Saxon Protestant

It is the oldest and richest strata of American society, historically. Their equivalent of our aristocracy.
Original post by WBZ144
Get back to me once you start reading Socialist Worker regularly to show how much you think outside of the box. The Guardian's right-wing equivalent would be something like the Telegraph, not Breitbart.

The SWP's equivalent would be something like Stormfront, not Breitbart.

But I do read the Socialist Worker occasionally as it goes. I wouldn't say "regularly" but every now and then.

Know your enemy.
Original post by generallee
The SWP's equivalent would be something like Stormfront, not Breitbart.

But I do read the Socialist Worker occasionally as it goes. I wouldn't say "regularly" but every now and then.

Know your enemy.


It's nonsense, but I don't remember the last time it called for a racially segregated county. And it may hate the "ruling class" but does not advocate violence towards them like SF does towards Jews, Blacks etc (even though it claims not to). It compares with Breitbart.
Original post by WBZ144
It's nonsense, but I don't remember the last time it called for a racially segregated county. And it may hate the "ruling class" but does not advocate violence towards them like SF does towards Jews, Blacks etc (even though it claims not to). It compares with Breitbart.


What are you smoking?? Can I have some? :biggrin:

The SWP is a Trotskyite Revolutionary Party.

How do you think it aspires to achieve its aims except through violence? Do you think it hopes that if it invites the "ruling class" over for tea they will voluntarily give up their economic and political power?

Have you never read anything by Leon Trotsky? Do you not know anything about his life, his political achievements and what he stood for?
Original post by generallee
What are you smoking?? Can I have some? :biggrin:

The SWP is a Trotskyite Revolutionary Party.

How do you think it aspires to achieve its aims except through violence? Do you think it hopes that if it invites the "ruling class" over for tea they will voluntarily give up their economic and political power?

Have you never read anything by Leon Trotsky? Do you not know anything about his life, his political achievements and what he stood for?


I am aware of their calls for a working class revolution and that if such a revolution were to take place, it couldn't be non-violent. Not only will such a revolution never happen in this country, but Trotsky's beliefs on violence and terror are not necessarily shared by many of them. I attended a few SWP events during my Fresher's year and they never advocated violence. They called for heavier taxes on the rich, they wanted equal benefits handed to them on a platter without working for them but that was the extent of their radical beliefs. Those who I'm still connected with on social media are mostly Corbyn supporters; clearly they think that voting leaders who they believe will support their policies is the best way to achieve the sort of society that they want, if unrealistic.
Original post by WBZ144
I am aware of their calls for a working class revolution and that if such a revolution were to take place, it couldn't be non-violent. Not only will such a revolution never happen in this country, but Trotsky's beliefs on violence and terror are not necessarily shared by many of them. I attended a few SWP events during my Fresher's year and they never advocated violence. They called for heavier taxes on the rich, they wanted equal benefits handed to them on a platter without working for them but that was the extent of their radical beliefs. Those who I'm still connected with on social media are mostly Corbyn supporters; clearly they think that voting leaders who they believe will support their policies is the best way to achieve the sort of society that they want, if unrealistic.


I used to be a Trotskyite myself (not with the SWP but a rival group) so I know how they work.

The top leadership believe in violent bloody revolution. The clue is in the name.

Trotskyite.
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Original post by Fullofsurprises
The 'Anglo-Saxon Press'?

Are you writing through a timewarp from 1890?


Please educate yourself about the planet you live.

It is a term that we use collectvly for everything british, american, australian etc.
Original post by generallee
I used to be a Trotskyite myself (not with the SWP but a rival group) so I know how they work.

The top leadership believe in violent bloody revolution. The clue is in the name.

Trotskyite.


It don't know, it could just be that the Newcastle SWP wasn't as bad as some of the others :s-smilie:. I'm not working class but wasn't afraid of them, which wouldn't be the case with SF members.
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Original post by generallee
He's from continental Europe? Hungary I think.

The French are the same, they talk about the Anglo Saxons when they mean the US and the UK.

Blissfully unaware that WASP's are a tiny (if privileged) minority Stateside and that it is politically incorrect to use the term in the UK.


How is it not PC?
Original post by slaven
Please educate yourself about the planet you live.

It is a term that we use collectvly for everything british, american, australian etc.


Well, I was making a joke, but the most common modern usage is a disparaging one from the French, it's often used as a sort of insult, to refer to the "Anglo-Saxon model", eg, right wing economics. I don't disagree with the ideology behind that, but I don't like the put down implied, given that it frequently comes from the French, who are currently presiding over one of the worst economies in Europe.
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Original post by Fullofsurprises
Well, I was making a joke, but the most common modern usage is a disparaging one from the French, it's often used as a sort of insult, to refer to the "Anglo-Saxon model", eg, right wing economics. I don't disagree with the ideology behind that, but I don't like the put down implied, given that it frequently comes from the French, who are currently presiding over one of the worst economies in Europe.


It is not only a french usage it is quite common in the rest of world like in China. "Anglo-Saxon" just mean everything that is coming from US/UK. There is also Anglo-Saxon cuisine for example (usually refered for McDonalds, KFC and other food chains). I do not think it is insulting, it depens from the context.
Original post by Fullofsurprises
Well, I was making a joke, but the most common modern usage is a disparaging one from the French, it's often used as a sort of insult, to refer to the "Anglo-Saxon model", eg, right wing economics. I don't disagree with the ideology behind that, but I don't like the put down implied, given that it frequently comes from the French, who are currently presiding over one of the worst economies in Europe.


It is not just a question of economics...

I.− Adj. Qui concerne les Anglo-Saxons.SYNT. Accent, athéisme, bloc, capitalisme, Empire, monde, pays, puritanisme, texte, type anglo-saxon; économie, éducation, Église, famille, force, habitude, hégémonie, ironie, politesse, presse, qualité, race, royauté, supériorité anglosaxonne
Original post by WBZ144
It don't know, it could just be that the Newcastle SWP wasn't as bad as some of the others :s-smilie:. I'm not working class but wasn't afraid of them, which wouldn't be the case with SF members.


It isn't that the Newcastle SWP is different but that you didn't get close enough to those pulling the strings to be trusted enough to understand the real ideological agenda.

The leaders of these tiny Troskyite sects are nasty pieces of work on a total power trip. It is ironic that you felt safe, because attractive young women (such as yourself) are often seen as easy prey...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/08/socialist-workers-party-rape-investigation

http://socialistunity.com/how-the-revolutionary-left-has-systematicaly-failed-to-prevent-sexual-abuse/
Original post by generallee
It isn't that the Newcastle SWP is different but that you didn't get close enough to those pulling the strings to be trusted enough to understand the real ideological agenda.

The leaders of these tiny Troskyite sects are nasty pieces of work on a total power trip. It is ironic that you felt safe, because attractive young women (such as yourself) are often seen as easy prey...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/feb/08/socialist-workers-party-rape-investigation

http://socialistunity.com/how-the-revolutionary-left-has-systematicaly-failed-to-prevent-sexual-abuse/


Thanks for the articles...insightful.

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