Tories try to stitch up Corbyn with boundary changes

highlighted in bold are statements which you are making of the top of your head with no substantial evidence to back up. You are not s fortune teller. You do not know what the future holds for us. If someone said 10 years ago that Britian would be leaving the EU, they'd have been laughed out of the room.

I think you need to take some humble pills kind sir

The boundary changes are incredibly undemocratic and are only being enforced by the tories to strengthen their majority.
The justification for the boundary changes was that there is an in built labour adavantage. However that is simply not the case anymore. At the last election Labour won a seat for roughly every 40,000 votes. The Tories won a seat for around every 34,000 votes. 36% of the votes gave the tories more than 50% of the seats. How is that unfair on them at all?


The second justification was that we should 'equalise constituencies'. However the boundaries are not being drawn by population but by the number of registered voters at the end of 2015. That means that 2 million extra people who registered to vote in the EU referendum were not included when boundaries were drawn.

Finally we are removing 50 elected MPs while at the same time having allowed Cameron to put large numbers of unelected peers into the lords.

So all those people who moaned about the EU being undemocratic are supporting this attack on our democracy.

When will you give up endorsing rotten boroughs? Shall we repeal "The Reform Act" while we're at it?

Also the referendum electorate was only 241000 higher in the referendum than the general election last year, X people registering is not the same thing as the electorate growing by X, the vast majority of people who "register" are already on the electoral roll.

The boundary review is carried out by an independent organisation and has been a continuous process since at least 1832.

Yet these 'rotten boroughs' allowed the tories to need over 6000 less votes for every seat it won than Labour. I don't see how a system which allowed the tories to need less votes per seat than labour was unfair on the tories.

The boundaries are drawn on people who were registered to vote. I.e people on the electoral roll. Thus anyone who registered to vote for the EU referendum who wasn't previously registered was not taken into account.
Two million people were not counted. And that doesn't include people who didn't register either.

But if you truly want to make it fair, then why not divide constituencies on populations over 18? Why choose registered voters at the end of 2015?


Let's not pretend that the tories are pushing through these boundary chanegs for any other reason than the fact they are favourable to the tories.

I'm surprised you endorse removing 50 democratically elected MPs, shortly after increasing the amount of unelected peers after going on about how 'undemocratic' the EU was.

This is really farcical. Second referendums, posthumous rule changes when the wrong person wins leadership, and now boundary changes on an already elected MP.

Correct me if I'm wrong from this article, does this mean they could get rid of him when he hasn't even been voted out?

I can't believe these Blairite people want to pretend any of this is a getting elected to do-good issue. What it is obviously is is an all powerful establishment that hates democracy and never wants anything to change ideologically. Just a modern day manifestation of the old class feudalism, with cap-doffers and forelock-tuggers now replaced with the unquestioning disciples of received wisdom and fake progressive causes doing their masters bidding and making sure all remain in their place.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyns-islington-north-seat-to-vanish-from-map-under-tories-planned-boundary-changes-a3342936.html

You do realise the 60% or so of Labour members who probably support Corbyn are not "the people", right? They are, what, 350,000 in total? There are 60 million people in the UK, approximately.

And the polls clearly show most of them think Corbyn is a completely shambolic, incompetent, terrorist-sympathising idiot, and they will never vote for the Labour Party while it is led by him. It's quite simply really; Corbyn will never win a general election. If you think he will, you are deluded.

We can glean two things from your rant: firstly your assumption that Jews won't vote vote for Corbyn. I'll give you the opportunity to rescind that. Secondly, that you're a paranoid and delusional conspiracy theorist. But we already knew that.....*

It may be true that it is in the Tories interest to push for it, but that does not change the fact that the boundary change would be more fair.

In regards the Tories winning a majority with 36% of the popular vote: I'm in favour of proportional representation, so I do agree with you on that point.

So you're saying that the constituencies should be set up such that the average votyes per seat is about the same for each party?

Once again, the increase in the electoral roll for June wasn't even a quarter of a million, it's not even 500 people per seat, and with an average ward size of over 10 times that jiggling boundaries differently really is unlikely to be worth the effort, in fact all the commission has to do to put two fingers up to you here is to show that even with the referendum electoral role all the guidelines given to them are still adhered to.

I have also in the past asked others to show that the correlation between electorate and adult population is sufficiently weak that one cannot be used as a proxy for the other, oddly nobody was forthcoming with such evidence.

OP- Ken Clarke and George Osborne your two favourite people are also set to lose their seats...