The Guardian is such an underrated newspaper

The Sun is very right wing. The times is centre right really. The independent endorsed the Conservatives at the last election.

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Why do you assume that there's an underlying right-wing bias in the press?

Left wing
- The Guardian.
- The Independent.
- The Mirror.

Centre
- The Times.

Right wing
- The Telegraph.
- The Daily Mail.
- The Express.

Firstly, The Times isn't centre. It's not as far right as The Telegraph or The Daily Mail but it most certainly is right-wing. Secondly, you need to consider the circulation of these newspapers. The circulations for The Sun, The Daily Mail and the Telegraph are 1.8m, 1.6m and 0.5m respectively. The circulations for The Guardian, The Independent and The Mirror are 0.16m, 0.06m and 0.8m respectively. In terms of readership, the (largely Murdoch-owned) right-wing press absolutely dominates the UK readership so there definitely is a right-wing bias if you consider what people are actually reading.

You are manipulating the data and you know you are.

Newspaper circulation - as in physical distribution - does not provide an accurate representation of a newspapers popularity because the internet - especially with the younger generation - has meant that the number of online readers has increased dramatically.

In terms of readership, both online and otherwise, is equally distributed among the political spectrum. According to the NRS, the most popular newspaper by net readership were:

1) The Daily Mail. (Right-wing, Tory)
2) The Daily Mirror. (Left-wing, Labour)
3) The Telegraph. (Right-wing, Tory)
4) The Guardian. (Left-wing, Labour)

Incidentally, the Sun are sixth.

Both the Times and the Independent did not support the Conservatives in the 2015 General Election. They supported the continuation of the Conservative/ Liberal Democrat coalition - and yes, there is a difference. The Times is generally seen as a centrist newspaper.

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/nrs-daily-mail-most-popular-uk-newspaper-print-and-online-23m-readers-month/

The Guardian is so underrated - it is a progressive newspaper with quality journalism and thoughtful commentary; it does not peddle hate, but promotes tolerant values. I also find their investigative journalism to be excellent.

I really don't get why their circulation is so low.

We need more of the Guardian - a paper with quality journalism and progressive, tolerant values - and less of the right-wing press! Agree?

If you're claiming that newspaper readership is a bad metric to use then online readership is just as bad because it takes into account international readership. The Guardian for instance has a very large online readership in the US, so it's really not very helpful when looking at readership in the UK. And even if you take these statistics at face value and sum up the left and right wing press, there's still a dominance by the right wing.

And if you're going to argue that The Times isn't a right-wing newspaper because it didn't officially support The Conservatives in the last election then I'd highly recommend you actually pick up a copy of The Times and read it because it's blatantly right-wing. The Times is not "generally seen" as a centrist newspaper, you're the only person who actually appears to be believing this (either you don't read The Times, or you're very confused about where the political centre lies).

You could say exactly the same about pretty much all right wing newspapers too. Don't pretend that only left wing papers have biases and propaganda and pseudo intellectuals.

The Guardian isn't perfect but most of the time they're pretty good. Much better than right wing propaganda like the Daily Mail who don't even know what journalistic standards mean.

The Evening Standard is most certainly not centre left. It recently endorsed Zachary Goldsmith.
The BBC is not centre left either. It bugs me how both the right and left think the BBC is biased against them. That's probably a good indicator that it is generally balanced. It leans centre left on some issues, centre right on others.

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The Sun? A newspaper that supported Labour in 1997, 2001 and 2005? If the Sun was very right wing, it wouldn't have supported Labour awhile back and it wouldn't have endorsed the Tories in the last election. The Sun - and Murdoch in general - likes to support whichever party is likely to get into power.

The Times and The Independent didn't endorse the Conservatives; they endorsed a Conservative/ Liberal Democrat coalition.

The Evening Standard's opinion pieces regularly espouse views that fit a left-wing agenda. The BBC is most certainly center-left. I cannot think of a single bias it has which is particularly different to The Guardian's.

The Evening Standard backed the tories at the last election and backed Zac Goldsmith for mayor. Research found that they printed almost twice as many positive stories about Zac as they did about Sadiq.

The Evening Standard is most certainly a conservative party supporting newspaper.

Again, both the right and left think the BBC is biased against them. That to me makes it clear that they are in fact pretty balanced. Note, as KimKallstrom said, balanced does not mean impartial.

You are beginning to sound like a conspiracy theorist, especially if you think that a paper which has backed the conservatives so solidy is suddenly centre left.

The Evening Standard regularly has opinion pieces that suit a so-called left-wing agenda. I read one where a woman complained that the iPhone 6 plus was sexist because it was too big for women's hands. I read another where a journalist moaned about James Bond as if it was a misogynistic and racist product of the Nazis. Check out the opinion pieces any day of the week and you'll likely find something on there that could be right out of Comment is Free.

Name one issue that BBC News differs with The Guardian on. Please try.

As for the "conspiracy theory" comment, what a pathetic attempt to ostracise me. Try and stick to the actual argument.

The Evening Standard has backed the conservatives and conservative candidates for years and years. As recently as May it came out in full support for Zac Goldsmith.

Quite how you think a conservative supporting paper is left wing really amazes me. Unless you think the Conservatives are centre left?
Please link me to some of these so called 'centre left articles'.

The BBC doesn't produce obvious opinion pieces in the same way that the guardian does so it's hard to compare. With the Guardian, it depends who's writing the piece. It could be a corbynite or a staunch blairite.

A few years ago i'd have rated it as on par with the Telegraph, Times and Independent however in recent years it's become the London mouthpiece spouting about diversity, safe spaces and generally putting towing to the social justice warriors.

So in terms of quality i'd agree that it's not bad but the extremity of views today have meant that i purchase the Times or Telegraph almost every occasion.

Sorry, I just remembered why I don't usually respond to you; you are always incredibly disingenuous. Bye.