Right-wing AfD makes huge gains in Berlin election

Edit: Sorry, wrong thread

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A suprising result considering the leftist leanings of many major European cities. I anticipated they would make large gains, but this may be a signal that the rest of Germany will vote even more resoundingly for them.

The level of support CDU have retained suprises me.

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caravaggio2

Merkel reaping what she sowed.

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Pinkberry_y

History will be kind to Merkel in time, but right now, Germany will not be

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KingJamesIII

Original post by Mathemagicien

Berlin, due to its history, is not as rich as you'd expect; and thus, not as diverse or champagne socialist as you might also expect.

The CDU still have a strong support base in the baby boomer generation, which is even more powerful in Germany than in the UK, due to their much lower birth rate since 1945.

Why are the baby boomers leftist? A response to the nationalism of the 30s/40s?

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slaven

Interesting AfD won 5 Directmandates. All are coming from former East Berlin (Pankow, Marzahna, Köpenick). What is happenning in Germany on national level in Berlin it is on state level.

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slaven

Original post by Mathemagicien

I meant, the baby boomers tend to stick with the CDU (centre-wing, not particularly left-wing), mainly out of loyalty, but also, I would guess, because they probably offer more generous pensions than the AfD.

CDU is not even center, let alone center-right. They are actually more center-left according to british standards. But you are right about loyality that baby boomers have toward the CDU (they probably still believe it is the party of Konrad Adenauer).

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KingJamesIII

Where is Afd's support coming from, demographically speaking?

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remiremi

Merkel will keep hold of power, CDU are still strong and even if they weaken they will just join a government with the socialists

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intelligent con

Far right nutters splitting the right wing vote and strengthening the socialists. Hopefully it will make merkel form a coalition with the left wing socialists who will be even more supportive in helping the poor refugees, happy days!

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#ChaosKass

Look out liberals - the far-right are here and we're here to stay.

Reply 11

Asolare

Well thank God most Berliners had the common sense to note vote for them, I'm happy to see them in only 5th place.

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Josb

Original post by remiremi

Merkel will keep hold of power, CDU are still strong and even if they weaken they will just join a government with the socialists

No, the SPD will make a government with the Greens and die Linke.

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Josb

Original post by slaven

The CSU in Bavaria is more right wing. They have threatened to break the partnership with the CDU if they didn't set a cap on refugees (at 200K a year, which would already be extremely generous). Merkel has destroyed any opposition in her party and no alternative exists - only the CSU can do that job, but Seehofer is too old.

The next federal elections will be very divided, and the CDU will have to make a coalition with the SPD and the Greens, and possibly the FDP to keep a majority in the Bundestag.

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Crijjkal

Not good enough .. Afd is behind the ****ing communists

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That Bearded Man

Do the AfD really represent the return of "Nazism" though? Surely as a far right party their similarity to UKIP and Le Pen just means the growth of the far right in response to migrants? "Nazism" surely is a lazy smear?

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nulli tertius

The result of this election is that Berlin's government has moved left not right.

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caravaggio2

Original post by Pinkberry_y

History will be kind to Merkel in time, but right now, Germany will not be

Pinky my friend, you're spot on.
History is written by the victors. If one thing is certain it's that one hundred years from now Germany, like most of Europe, will either be a Muslim state or heading for it. They will be erecting statues of her everywhere.
As Gadaffi said, it will be done without firing a single bullet .