Farage: 'Clinton is in for a big shock'

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American politics is a lot angrier in general than UK politics (Brexit referendum aside, not sure why that turned into such a mud slinging match).

Both Trump and Hillary supporters give as good as they get, what Hillary said the other week probably won't make much difference to anything.

Her biggest problem though is persuading the electorate what she actually stands for (other than 'NOT TRUMP') and she doesn't seem to be very effective at brushing aside skeletons in the closet.

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KimKallstrom

Original post by Dez

This is US politics, insulting the opposing side is pretty much par for the course. It's always the same, the politicians would rather spend their time pointing out each other's problems rather than promoting their own virtues.

Can you point to any examples in the past of insulting the other candudate's supporters as opposed to the candidate themselves?*

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Napp

They are looneys, fruit cakes and uncloseted rcists though...

Either way same applies to anyone who listens to the whoopsie.

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ManiaMuse

Original post by KimKallstrom

Can you point to any examples in the past of insulting the other candudate's supporters as opposed to the candidate themselves?*

Mitt Romney did it with his 47% comment in 2012.

Obama did it with his 'bitter clingers to guns and religion' comment in 2008

There's plenty of form for it.

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Jammy Duel

Original post by Es0phagus

Hardly damaging dude: it will not make those people change their mind, but it certainly will not cause her supporters to defect or anything like that. I am pretty sure she has already apologised for that comment anyway.

Nobody said it would change the politically active, it's the swing voters that it pushes away. It directly insults the electorate, whichpeople don't like, and it potentially directly insults some of those swing voters which definitely alienates them

It also gives something for trump and his supporters to rally around, all you have to do is look at the streams of rallys to see they've taken it and thrown it straight back at Clinton.

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KimKallstrom

Original post by ManiaMuse

Mitt Romney did it with his 47% comment in 2012.

Obama did it with his 'bitter clingers to guns and religion' comment in 2008

There's plenty of form for it.

Romney's comment was that people who don't pay income tax won't care about tax cuts so there's no point trying to appeal to them. It was a stupid thing to say but its not quite calling people deplorable, bigoted etc etc. At least in my view anyway

Repped though as I'd forgotten about that *

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username471863

Farage? He's still relevant?

Reply 27

caravaggio2

Original post by IkeaLamp

the "silent majority", you have no personal clue what % of the US supports either candidate, don't make up stuff how more than 50% of the USA supports this muppet

Whether you like it or not, lots of the stuff that Trump comes out with resonates with ordinary people. Stuff like getting a grip of terrorism and illegal migration. The problem arises when people like you abuse people in a personal way for leaning towards Trump and vilify with words like racist, bigot, scum etc. You are playing a dangerous game because thats when people stop talking about how they will vote, but if anything become more driven from the stance of people like you giving the abuse.
The same thing happened when Major won the election after Thatcher left office.
All the polls said a Labour landslide but what the pollsters didn't know was months and months of anything Tory getting openly ****ged off led to people not letting on to being a supporter.
Come the day of the election and in the privacy of the poll booth all that abuse came home to roost. The exit polls were even wrong. They were voting Tory , leaving the booth and claiming to have voted Labour.
There is a real danger, because of the abuse being hurled at non Democrats in America, there is a very real possibility of the same thing happening there.
Clinton's abuse of 25% of voters ( most importantly including the swing voters) has only made it worse.