Comp sci vs Econ

Allow your econ promoting

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Yes it's multidisciplinary and wide scoping, and there's a correlation with top economics degree holders earning high paying jobs.

Computer science grads on the other hand have the highest unemployment rate. lol.

LOOOL 'correlation'.

Yeah, but as you can see from statistics at various universities they also have one of the highest straight into employment rates and highest professional job vs nonprofessional job rates, way more than Econ anyway. Sorry dude, econ can't compare

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Both degrees are good and can land you some really good jobs. Doing economics degree isnt guranteed to land you a top job in investment banking neither will comp sci land you a job at facebook.

However the thing about computer science having the highest unemployment rate is bs lol. Knowing programming and software development makes you the most employable person ever. You can literally create jobs for yourself, become a free lancer and not even bother applying for jobs at companies. Or even do a start up as soon as you get an idea. Where as in Econ, you need to be working at the big dogs to be making the bucks. I vote for Computer Science in terms of employment

https://www.studyinternational.com/news/uk-computer-science-has-the-highest-rate-of-unemployed-graduates

You can literally google "computer science highest unemployment rate" and you'd find a ton of articles on it lmaooo

You dont need a compsci degree to know programming and software development, there are other qualifications and courses

https://www.studyinternational.com/news/uk-computer-science-has-the-highest-rate-of-unemployed-graduates

You can literally google "computer science highest unemployment rate" and you'd find a ton of articles on it lmaooo

You dont need a compsci degree to know programming and software development, there are other qualifications and courses

Since you want to throw stats in

Bristol BSc CompSci (80% employment, 100% professional job)
http://m.unistats.ac.uk/Subjects/Overview/10007786FT-4COSC006UU-201516/ReturnTo/Search

Bristol BSc Econ (63% employment, 89% professional job)
http://m.unistats.ac.uk/Subjects/Overview/10007786FT-9ECON001UU-201516/ReturnTo/Search

UCL MEng CompSci (65% employment, 100% professional job, £40k avg of all start salaries achieved):
http://m.unistats.ac.uk/Subjects/Overview/10007784FT-UBSCOMSING05/ReturnTo/Search

UCL BSc Econ (69% employment, 87% professional job, £34k avg of all start salaries achieved):
http://m.unistats.ac.uk/Subjects/Overview/10007784FT-UBEECOSING05/ReturnTo/Search

Durham BSc CompSci (60% employment, 100% professional job, £31k avg of all start salaries achieved):
http://m.unistats.ac.uk/Subjects/Overview/10007143FT-G400/ReturnTo/Search

Durham BA Econ (66% employment, 95% professional job, £30k avg of all start salary achieved):
http://m.unistats.ac.uk/Subjects/Overview/10007143FT-L100/ReturnTo/Search

Birmingham BSc CompSci (90% employment, 95% professional job, £26k avg of all start salaries achieved):
http://m.unistats.ac.uk/Subjects/Overview/10006840FT-K0188/ReturnTo/Search

Birmingham BSc Econ (55% employment, 91% professional job, same avg of start salaries):
http://m.unistats.ac.uk/Subjects/Overview/10006840FT-K0160/ReturnTo/Search

Could go on.

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This is ongoing though, same can be said that an individual doesn't need need to learn about the economy through a degree, they could just grab and read a text book instead. (And i do economics btw)
Also computer science actually has little programming in it

How about we look at the full picture instead of cherry picking unis to suit your agenda eh?

By choosing such a small sample, there are far too many variables that you haven't considered. Maybe econ grads go for tougher jobs hence why they dont get employed straight away. The types of jobs that the two degrees are vastly different too. There are so many other factors that you havent considered either.

And even as you cherry pick the unis (at one point even naively comparing a masters to a bachelors) the full picture is vastly different.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/11666169/Which-degree-should-you-study-to-get-rich-quick.html

If you look here, econ grads end up being very high paid in the long term whereas compsci grads seem to be not so highly paid. I guess the econ lot are the ambitious lot whereas the compsci lot are the ones facing an early midlife crisis. Shame.

Nah, I left MEng by mistake when the link is to the BSc because I knew you'd get butthurt.

Anyway, good luck man, clearly you think Econ is superior and will get you everywhere in life...

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How about we look at the full picture instead of cherry picking unis to suit your agenda eh?

By choosing such a small sample, there are far too many variables that you haven't considered. Maybe econ grads go for tougher jobs hence why they dont get employed straight away. The types of jobs that the two degrees are vastly different too. There are so many other factors that you havent considered either.

And even as you cherry pick the unis (at one point even naively comparing a masters to a bachelors) the full picture is vastly different.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/11666169/Which-degree-should-you-study-to-get-rich-quick.html

If you look here, econ grads end up being very high paid in the long term whereas compsci grads seem to be not so highly paid. I guess the econ lot are the ambitious lot whereas the compsci lot are the ones facing an early midlife crisis. Shame.

Plus FYI, the source of that article is from Emolument, which severely oversampled for people in the city and not as you put it 'the overall picture'. Now as you're aware, Econ grads tend to want to go into banking more so than any other student of any other degree out there..

But ofc, that's not cherry picking either

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As i've already said, you can give it a quick google search where many website reports the same issue; Computer science has the highest unemployment rate.

It works both ways, you know that banking is the most popular career choice. And as you claim to be an expert, you'd also know how notoriously difficult it is to get into a top job and many grads spend a good time looking for a job, so that's perhaps a reason for why econ grads employment rate is so low. But the fact that they end up earning a lot more than compsci grads in the long term says something.

Compsci on the other hand, its easy to get a job (according to your stats that highly contradicts other sources) and the top salary package is comparatively lower. Seems like a pretty bleak life to me.

Your main argument is: computer science has the highest unemployment.. I've already SHOWN you that it actually has one of the best employment rates and professional employment rates at any of the decent CS programmes out there but nope.

Who do you think will get a better job? The Man Met grad with a CS degree and experience or the Man Met grad with an Econ degree and some experience? Considering a) it's a non-target for anything finance related, b) the econ grad wouldn't have any discernible skills, c) the CS grad has in demand skills.

It is not a fact, anyone who gets a banking job (be that an econ, CS, history grad - who cares) will earn more than anyone who doesn't. It's very unrealistic to think that most CompScis would even consider getting an FO gig at a bank - most don't care and would rather code. So focusing on a sight where a) it's already biased towards banking and b) econ grads are already biased towards banking, is not only cherry picking but painting an absolutely unrealistic view of the broader picture on graduate salaries over time.

Again, you're using biased data to make claims on the 'top salary being lower'.. It makes 0 sense. I know for a fact that the salaries available at the likes of the top end of tech not only mirror banking but also have solid upside - but how many people get those jobs? Very few in the grand scheme of things. Likewise for econ and banking. In fact, pretty much any job an Econ grad can get post university a CompSci (or really any degree holder could easily get). Not so for the other way round.

IMO, you have a skewed view of a) where the demand in the future is for different skillsets, b) the earnings potential outside of finance is for any regular old nonspecific grad job that an econ grad can attain and c) on this whole BS about unemployment rates.

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LOOL you haven't shown me anything mate. I've already shown you that it does have the highest unemployment rate.

https://www.thetechpartnership.com/news-events/news/hesa-data-reveals-computer-science-graduate-unemployment-is-double-the-average/

Here, oh wait, is HESA biased? Im gonna trust this more than the links you pulled from a few unis.

This is an argument about the degrees, not universities. Cheap straw man.

Ofc its not a fact that banking earns more and i never claimed that. It was in fact YOU who brought banking into this argument So again, yet another straw man.

So econ is biased towards banking by nature. So what? Does that change the fact that within both 5 years and 15 years an econ grad will earn more than an equivalent compsci grad? no. You have basically implicitly admitted that the types of jobs compsci grads go for pays less.

Yes, top tech jobs pay big, but you fail to look at the full picture. You seem to really struggle on this. Sure, on an individual level it is not as clear cut but overall econ grads do do better. It makes total sense, you're just ignorant to the point where you completely ignore the facts when its staring right at you.

Economics is a multidiscplinary subject. Besides most econ students dont do it to go to a tech job (funny how you made a similar point earlier about compsci but you've tried to use that same logical line of thinking against me). There are literally 8 week courses out there teaching ppl to code and compsci grads dont even use their computational knowledge in many of their jobs. Just because econ grads dont do it, doesnt mean that they cant.

IMO, you seem to struggle to face the facts and consistently fail to look at the full picture. I've provided you with plenty of links proving that econ grads earn more and compsci grads are the most likely to be unemployed - by quite a far distance.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Nah, I'm off to bed cba.

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Nah, I'm off to bed cba.

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how incompetent you are. Perhaps a mediocre tech job is right for you and your ego.

lol computer science, you can learn to code without a degree in it

Computer science isn't coding...