Corbyn wins again!

I imagine that many of our fellow Tories felt a moment of intense pleasure knowing that the market economy is safe for another decade or so.

Unfortunately have to agree with you. Depressing stuff, but then I didn't think Owen Smith was much better, the only thing he had going for him was not being Jeremy Corbyn. Labour lacks strong political figures and the way Corbyn runs the party to alienate fellow MPs, it won't do again for some time.

Well welcome to at least ten to fifteen years of tory government. Labour, with Corbyn as leader, is totally unelectable.

Polarisation of poltiics in the 2000s. far right getting bigger, far left getting bigger, extremisim ie islamic fundamentalism and gang culture in youth getting bigger. Tradtional middle ground shrinking.

China will invade soon and run the show

What makes the 'market economy' (which we have a fairly twisted version of) 'safe' is not the elected leaders, but the lack of major crises in that economy. Dark clouds are still present over the current neoliberal project and it increasingly looks like its heading for another major fail, sooner rather than later. If that's catastrophic, all political bets are off and Corbyn could well win the day, or at the very least, be a strong contender. People won't keep voting for the neoliberal party if it's totally obvious that they represent massive failure. That's what did for New Labour and there's no reason why it can't do for the current iteration of Toryism.

But he's not really devoid of charisma, is he? Most of the people who say this are the people who adopt this kind of snotty affectation of being politically unbiased, "Oh I'm so very very superior and above grubby partisanship. I'm almost on another plane of existence, so elevated is my intellect".

Polls consistently show that ordinary voters prefer Smith to Corbyn something like 65 to 35. In interviews Owen Smith always masters the policy brief and is great on the details, and he's always upbeat and in reality is a really nice guy.

Jeremy Corbyn, by contrast, is a crabby old throwback to the 1970s who shouts at journalists who ask him unwanted questions, takes thousands of pounds as payment to be a television shill for a regime that lynches gay men from cranes, and has happily allowed a cult of personality to grow around him both for reasons of vanity and to have a political attack force to menace his enemies.

Anyone who thinks the two are in any way comparable has obviously had a moral sensibility bypass

Well welcome to at least ten to fifteen years of tory government. Labour, with Corbyn as leader, is totally unelectable.

He reigns supreme.

Now all he needs is more than half a dozen MPs to support him, which is going to be difficult.

I don't know where you've heard or what makes you think that Corbyns labour is at all homophobic?

They're only unelectable if people are persuaded by the right-wing media that they're unelectable and so don't vote for them.

They're unelectable because of Corbyn's policies and his terrorist-supporting baggage. People dislike Corbyn because of things he's said and done, not because some newspapers call him unelectable.

Of course it's absolutely impossible to get through to Corbynites on that score; they prefer excuses and victimhood to actually taking responsibility for their own incompetence and unelectability and doing something about it

Your ad hominem argument here contributes nothing to the argument.

That wasn't ad hominem. just saying.

Well welcome to at least ten to fifteen years of tory government. Labour, with Corbyn as leader, is totally unelectable.