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Fair enough response but the vast majority of your initial criticism tends to gravitate around the response of Muslim feminists to Nour's decision- you seem to have slyly skipped the retort I gave to this.

You say in your initial post that:

"The activist Muslim feminists who have been outraged by Tagouri are part of the old guard second-wave feminism of the last century that sees things like pornography as exploitation and commodification. The intellectual and spiritual heirs of those feminists are modern day third-wave feminists, who like teenagers rebelling against their parents, have embraced sexualization, pornography, etc., as empowering and liberating."

That is an extremely unfair allegation to hordes of Muslim women who identify as feminists and are doing excellent work for the betterment of women's rights around the globe. Yes third wave feminism movements often concentrate on wholly irrelevant and petty things and yes, Western feminists have a tendency to orientalise women of other cultures and view themselves as "saviours".

Regardless, feminism in its essence, in its dictionary definition is merely the belief that men and women have equal rights. It is outrageous to put the millions of men and women fighting tooth to nail against rape, domestic violence, FGM, forced marriage and identifying as feminists in the same category as third wave Western feminists.

Your attempt to attack the "ideology" of Feminism is cute. But you would be better off tackling the frankly staggering amount of serious problems facing a frankly pathetic and disunited Islamic community at the moment.

I skipped it because it was a quoted post and the observations of someone else, not myself. But anyways, my belief is that you are taking offense/arguing over nothing here - the clear intention of the post is in criticism of some of those in Western countries who focus on the 'empowerment' BS rather than those who defend traditional feminist ideals as the ones you mentioned - you are conflating the issue as if the author is discrediting feminism as a whole.

Irregardless, fundamentally, feminism isn't something Muslims should care about directly per se - rather Muslims should seek establishing justice as per the teachings of Islam and through the Shariah, and then naturally the condition of women will improve, which will cover some common issues that Feminism wishes to address (although perhaps not all of them)

I already try to tackle the disunity issue in a way that I see fit; again you are making the mistake in assuming I am incable of doing other things or holding beliefs on a wider range of issues, as if me mentioning one topic means I can no longer address another topic - you are trying to fit a square block in a traingle hole with your expectations and assumptions on what I believe and do.

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HAnwar

Original post by Zamestaneh

And this one.

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Zamestaneh

Original post by HAnwar

And this one.

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HAnwar

Original post by Zamestaneh

Reported.

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username2803872

How did you get used to sitting on one foot and bending the other I have just recently started praying again and really struggle with sitting like this any help please?

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h333

Original post by HAnwar

As a Muslim feminist I find this picture highly offensive.

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You're a feminist? :eek:

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junayd1998

Sorry i couldn't resist lmao .

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HAnwar

Original post by h333

You're a feminist? :eek:

Hell no.

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username945663

Original post by samaad1

How did you get used to sitting on one foot and bending the other I have just recently started praying again and really struggle with sitting like this any help please?

I just got used to it after a few weeks. :O
Now I don't notice it anymore.

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h333

Original post by HAnwar

Hell no.

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Thought so lol. Never understood feminism tbh.

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HAnwar

Original post by h333

Thought so lol. Never understood feminism tbh.

Don't bother understanding it lol. It's full of contradictions.

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ThatMuslimGuy

Original post by IdeasForLife

Would be a shame if someone halal'd it. :diep:

Is seal halal?

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username945663

Original post by ThatMuslimGuy

Is seal halal?

Had to use Shaykh Google there and got the first link.

According to Mufti Ebrahim Desai, it's not :0
http://islamqa.org/hanafi/albalagh/22479

And then I couldn't be asked clicking anymore links soooooooo.