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why do people do gap year abroad working with children

when they could volunteer in Britain wth children who are in local authority care.

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It's because they care about the travel and not about other people. If anything, there are questions over whether "voluntourism" actually causes more harm than good.
Original post by Viva Emptiness
It's because they care about the travel and not about other people. If anything, there are questions over whether "voluntourism" actually causes more harm than good.


This is ridiculous.
Original post by A-LJLB
This is ridiculous.


Welp, guess I'm wrong then.
Original post by Viva Emptiness
Welp, guess I'm wrong then.


Why do you feel that way? I mean everyone I know who has volunteered abroad has done it due to the sympathy towards those who don't have the same facilities as we do, and the desire to make a different even if just for a few weeks
Children in local authority care in the UK are well provided for. Children in other countries are not and its a good thing that young people want to leave their homes and families and go and give of themselves to children who are not so lucky.
Original post by A-LJLB
Why do you feel that way? I mean everyone I know who has volunteered abroad has done it due to the sympathy towards those who don't have the same facilities as we do, and the desire to make a different even if just for a few weeks


Ok, so I'm probably being a tad cynical about people's motivations but

http://www.worldtravelguide.net/holidays/editorial-feature/voluntourism-should-i-volunteer-abroad

is an interesting read, which links to a study about orphanages in which children are separated from their parents and told that they will be sent to have a good education but in reality are sent to these desperate places to feed demand for well-meaning westerners to pay a lot of money to go over and "help".
Original post by Viva Emptiness
Ok, so I'm probably being a tad cynical about people's motivations but

http://www.worldtravelguide.net/holidays/editorial-feature/voluntourism-should-i-volunteer-abroad

is an interesting read, which links to a study about orphanages in which children are separated from their parents and told that they will be sent to have a good education but in reality are sent to these desperate places to feed demand for well-meaning westerners to pay a lot of money to go over and "help".


If that is true then that is disgusting! Poor children.

I hadn't heard of that, so maybe I'm naive - I've always just looked at it as people really wanting to help, and it's easier to do placements abroad as there are no qualification and experience restrictions
Original post by A-LJLB
If that is true then that is disgusting! Poor children.

I hadn't heard of that, so maybe I'm naive - I've always just looked at it as people really wanting to help, and it's easier to do placements abroad as there are no qualification and experience restrictions


That's another part of the problem - with no qualification and experience what can you really offer a developing country that the locals couldn't themselves with the funding? And they'd probably do a better job of it tbh, since they are the ones living with the results.
The article is about well-meaning westerners, and not young people with good intentions willing to go and help children less fortunate than themselves.
Original post by Viva Emptiness
That's another part of the problem - with no qualification and experience what can you really offer a developing country that the locals couldn't themselves with the funding? And they'd probably do a better job of it tbh, since they are the ones living with the results.


A lot of it is simply that there are too many people that need help and too little people able to offer help.
So they turn to volunteers. Building schools may be different, but for placements in care and medicine/psychology, I can't see it being anything other than a big help
Original post by looloo2134
when they could volunteer in Britain wth children who are in local authority care.


'looks good' on their CV

Yes look after children here and other countries. All need care and love

:biggrin:

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Original post by A-LJLB
A lot of it is simply that there are too many people that need help and too little people able to offer help.
So they turn to volunteers. Building schools may be different, but for placements in care and medicine/psychology, I can't see it being anything other than a big help


Absolutely, skilled help is desperately needed and welcomed, but when you get to the wealthy-gap-yah end of the spectrum I suspect that is where it starts to do more harm than good.
Original post by Viva Emptiness
Absolutely, skilled help is desperately needed and welcomed, but when you get to the wealthy-gap-yah end of the spectrum I suspect that is where it starts to do more harm than good.


What about medical placements? They help to look after the patients with minor injuries, allowing he skilled professionals to focus on more serious incidents. Mental health help is very poor in underdeveloped countries as well, although you tend to have to have studied psychology to get these placements. I think it depends entirely on the role you want to undertake, but I can definitely see your point
Original post by Seamus123
Children in local authority care in the UK are well provided for. Children in other countries are not and its a good thing that young people want to leave their homes and families and go and give of themselves to children who are not so lucky.


Do you know people who have been through the UK care system?
More likely to be in prison, go into prostitutiom many times less likely to get GCSE's or go to Uni, more chance of mental health issues, pregancy and suicide.

The UK care system is scandalously poor.
Original post by Seamus123
Children in local authority care in the UK are well provided for. Children in other countries are not and its a good thing that young people want to leave their homes and families and go and give of themselves to children who are not so lucky.[/QUOT

Children in local authority care in the UK are not well provided for
1) more likely to have mental illness than children not in local authority care,
2) more likely to be criminalized for normal teenage behavior such as come home late at night.
3) more likely become homeless after leaving care
4)do less well at school and less likely to go to university or get employment
5) can be in ten different care homes by the age of 12.

If you think that children in local authority care in Britain are well provided for you are very wrong and have never meet a person who been in care.

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_do/barnardos_today.htm
Btw they go abroad becayse they are paying for their degree and its a once in a lifetime opportunity to see a contrasting culture and how child care works. Rest of their life to experience the UK system.
Original post by 999tigger
Btw they go abroad becayse they are paying for their degree and its a once in a lifetime opportunity to see a contrasting culture and how child care works. Rest of their life to experience the UK system.


You mean the average Briton never ever goes abroad unless it's to "help" poor people by doing more harm than good, and people accuse me of beings stuck in the 19th Century.
Original post by Jammy Duel
You mean the average Briton never ever goes abroad unless it's to "help" poor people by doing more harm than good, and people accuse me of beings stuck in the 19th Century.


That is not what I said or meant until you attempted to twist it.

The question was about people (presumably students to be) doing gap years and not the average Britain.

I never said never goes abroad I said its a once in a lifetime opportunity. There wont be many students who get a gap year again to work in their chosen area for a year. People tend to get jobs and families.

You arent stuck in the 19th century you are just 100% idiot.
Original post by 999tigger
Do you know people who have been through the UK care system?
More likely to be in prison, go into prostitutiom many times less likely to get GCSE's or go to Uni, more chance of mental health issues, pregancy and suicide.

The UK care system is scandalously poor.


Yes, I went through it myself.

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