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Law at Gonville and Caius?

To Caius' law students out there, I would like to ask:
Is Caius very international, particularly for law?
Do you do your supervisions within the college itself? I have been reading the websites, and I love what the Law fellows at Caius do!
Is Caius welcoming towards international students (particularly those from south-east asia eg. Singapore and Malaysia)?
Does Caius get many international applicants?
In addition, is Caius one of the most competitive law colleges (perhaps, as competitive as Trinity, St. John's, King's?)?

Thanks!
I'm not a Caius law student, but I'd like to help you a few general information about colleges.

Original post by Tessallovelace

Is Caius very international, particularly for law?

Is Caius welcoming towards international students (particularly those from south-east asia eg. Singapore and Malaysia)?
Does Caius get many international applicants?
There's not much difference at all between colleges how they are/are not international.

Except for Medicine, which has a strict quota set by the government/NHS for a number of international students, what every college want to do is to give offers to the most able students, no matter whether they're international students or home students. They do not have any preference to either.
So the proportion of international students for a specific course varies a lot year to year.
There's no college/course which is constantly more/less international than others. That's not how they choose candidates.

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Do you do your supervisions within the college itself? I have been reading the websites, and I love what the Law fellows at Caius do!

In general, across most colleges and most courses, supervisions during the first year are more likely than not done by the DoS/fellows of your college.
But from the second year onwards, who supervises you will depend upon which tripo papers you choose and also who are available to take you on. So it's not limited to fellows your college happens to have.
Also, having a fellow you like at a college you apply does not necessarily mean you'll have him/her as your supervisor as it'd all depend on all other factors, like number of students they have, the schedule of fellows.


In addition, is Caius one of the most competitive law colleges (perhaps, as competitive as Trinity, St. John's, King's?)?

Thanks!

This is one of the most misunderstood thing about Cambridge colleges. And hundreds of questions and debates have passed through this forum year after year.
The university has a moderation system (pooling) which enable them to ensure the university as a whole can give offers to the most able/talented candidates, no matter which college they applied to.
Admission people for each college can see the field of all applicants to all other colleges from the earliest stage of assessment process, so they know how strong/weak direct applicants to their colleges are compared to the cohort of all applicants to the university. They're in the serious business of selecting the right students as a university, so they constructed the system to achieve it and have been monitoring it every year to make sure it's working. It's not 100% perfect system and they're the first one to admit it isn't, but they're quite happy how it's been working.

Many applicants misread and misinterpret the statistical data they find on their website, but what happens is a seemingly less-competitive college rejects large number of weaker direct applicants to their college and fish stronger applicants who were pooled by more 'popular' colleges.
So if you're good enough for Cambridge, you'll get in, though it may not be the college you applied to. But if you're not strong enough for them, applying to a less popular college will not help you either.

Please read these for more detailed explanation.
And the keyword is, 'DO NOT PLAY THE STATISTIC GAMES' :wink:

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=3733847
Please read "About Colleges" in this post and all,the links.

Also this.
http://www.undergraduate.study.cam.a...sing-a-college

And the latest input from one of the most experienced admission tutors at Cambridge. Fresh from the oven. :wink:
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4345342&p=67863558&page=2#post67863558
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by vincrows
I'm not a Caius law student, but I'd like to help you a few general information about colleges.



Except for Medicine, which has a strict quota set by the government/NHS for a number of international students, what every college want to do is to give offers to the most able students, no matter whether they're international students or home students. They do not have any preference to either.
So the proportion of international students for a specific course varies a lot year to year.
There's no college/course which is constantly more/less international than others. That's not how they choose candidates.

Spoiler


In general, across most colleges and most courses, supervisions during the first year are more likely than not done by the DoS/fellows of your college.
But from the second year onwards, who supervises you will depend upon which tripo papers you choose and also who are available to take you on. So it's not limited to fellows your college happens to have.
Also, having a fellow you like at a college you apply does not necessarily mean you'll have him/her as your supervisor as it'd all depend on all other factors, like number of students they have, the schedule of fellows.



This is one of the most misunderstood thing about Cambridge colleges. And hundreds of questions and debates have passed through this forum year after year.
The university has a moderation system (pooling) which enable them to ensure the university as a whole can give offers to the most able/talented candidates, no matter which college they applied to.
Admission people for each college can see the field of all applicants to all other colleges from the earliest stage of assessment process, so they know how strong/weak direct applicants to their colleges are compared to the cohort of all applicants to the university. They're in the serious business of selecting the right students as a university, so they constructed the system to achieve it and have been monitoring it every year to make sure it's working. It's not 100% perfect system and they're the first one to admit it isn't, but they're quite happy how it's been working.

Many applicants misread and misinterpret the statistical data they find of their website, but what happens is a seemingly less-competitive college rejects large number of weaker applicants and fish stronger applicants who were pooled by more 'popular' colleges.
So if you're good enough for Cambridge, you'll get in, though it may not be the college you applied to. But if you're not strong enough for them, applying to a less popular college will not help you either.

Please read these for more detailed explanation.
And the keyword is, 'DO NOT PLAY THE STATISTIC GAMES' :wink:

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=3733847
Please read "About Colleges" in this post and all,the links.

Also this.
http://www.undergraduate.study.cam.a...sing-a-college

And the latest input from one of the most experienced admission tutors at Cambridge. Fresh from the oven. :wink:
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4345342&p=67863558&page=2#post67863558


Thanks Vincrows!

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Original post by Tessallovelace
Thanks Vincrows!

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You're welcome.
And, yes.

Good luck with your application. :smile:

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