Anyone understand these new gender pronouns?
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It's too confusing. We may as well just use people's names, seeing as these pronouns are becoming so personalized and numerous (and we have to ask people what 'their pronoun' is before talking to them).
It doesn't mean I'm impolite if I don't refer to you as 'xe' or 'ge' or 'Sir Unicorn.' It means I'm refusing to take part in a silly millennial fad - because that's exactly what it is. I'm not going to take it seriously.
Male? You're a he. Female? She. The only allowances I make go to genuine transsexuals, not edgy trans-trenders. If that 'triggers' people, go cry about it on tumblr.
It doesn't mean I'm impolite if I don't refer to you as 'xe' or 'ge' or 'Sir Unicorn.' It means I'm refusing to take part in a silly millennial fad - because that's exactly what it is. I'm not going to take it seriously.
Male? You're a he. Female? She. The only allowances I make go to genuine transsexuals, not edgy trans-trenders. If that 'triggers' people, go cry about it on tumblr.
Best ignored, like we ignore most crazy people.
Original post by Dandaman1
It's too confusing. We may as well just use people's names, seeing as these pronouns are becoming so personalized and numerous (and we have to ask people what 'their pronoun' is before talking to them).
It doesn't mean I'm impolite if I don't refer to you as 'xe' or 'ge' or 'Sir Unicorn.' It means I'm refusing to take part in a silly millennial fad - because that's exactly what it is. I'm not going to take it seriously.
Male? You're a he. Female? She. The only allowances I make go to genuine transsexuals, not edgy trans-trenders. If that 'triggers' people, go cry about it on tumblr.
It doesn't mean I'm impolite if I don't refer to you as 'xe' or 'ge' or 'Sir Unicorn.' It means I'm refusing to take part in a silly millennial fad - because that's exactly what it is. I'm not going to take it seriously.
Male? You're a he. Female? She. The only allowances I make go to genuine transsexuals, not edgy trans-trenders. If that 'triggers' people, go cry about it on tumblr.
why?
Original post by Dodgypirate
I heard that people use 'They' when they're bigender or whatever.
I hear people use 'they' when they don't want to be known.
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the whole concept of gender is kind of useless imo. all it does is reinforce and legitimise stupid stereotypes, assumptions, expectations, prejudices etc. etc. blah blah.
sounds a bit radical but meh. i really can't envisage any situations where it should matter to anything what anyone's gender identity is.
sounds a bit radical but meh. i really can't envisage any situations where it should matter to anything what anyone's gender identity is.
Original post by Flowersong
the whole concept of gender is kind of useless imo. all it does is reinforce and legitimise stupid stereotypes, assumptions, expectations, prejudices etc. etc. blah blah.
sounds a bit radical but meh. i really can't envisage any situations where it should matter to anything what anyone's gender identity is.
sounds a bit radical but meh. i really can't envisage any situations where it should matter to anything what anyone's gender identity is.
Medical ?
Original post by Flowersong
the whole concept of gender is kind of useless imo. all it does is reinforce and legitimise stupid stereotypes, assumptions, expectations, prejudices etc. etc. blah blah.
sounds a bit radical but meh. i really can't envisage any situations where it should matter to anything what anyone's gender identity is.
sounds a bit radical but meh. i really can't envisage any situations where it should matter to anything what anyone's gender identity is.
There is no such things as gender identity it's a made up concept there is only sex
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Original post by da_nolo
Medical ?
but can't we talk about those concepts by referencing hormone profiles, reproductive systems etc. (i.e. the actual characteristics used to define sex) directly without ever bothering with assigned sex itself? let alone gender identity
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Original post by paul514
There is no such things as gender identity it's a made up concept there is only sex
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sex is made up to some extent too, but that is kind of what i'm saying!
It's pretentious, but I doubt anyone over 25/30 would want people to use them.
Original post by Flowersong
but can't we talk about those concepts by referencing hormone profiles, reproductive systems etc. (i.e. the actual characteristics used to define sex) directly without ever bothering with assigned sex itself? let alone gender identity
That'd be pretty inefficient in a medical setting
I think people who use ze/xe pronouns are attention seekers or have a mental problem. I would probably try using those pronouns, just out of respect, but inside I would be judging them. Let's put it this way... I probably won't be socialising with them much anyway. It's sad, really.
Original post by neon_reaper
That'd be pretty inefficient in a medical setting
yeah and in any setting where the statistical grouping of variables has power and/or value e.g. insurance etc.
i don't know if the same is true of gender
Original post by Flowersong
sex is made up to some extent too, but that is kind of what i'm saying!
Sex isn't made up you are male/female or defective
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Original post by paul514
well what do you mean made up
Original post by Flowersong
well what do you mean made up
Made up as in a fake set of rules for male and female that is what gender is.
Chopping your willy off, putting a wig, heals and a dress doesn't make you a woman.
It makes you a man who self multilated his body and likes wearing woman's clothes.
He has gender dysphoria
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Original post by paul514
Made up as in a fake set of rules for male and female that is what gender is.
Chopping your willy off, putting a wig, heals and a dress doesn't make you a woman.
It makes you a man who self multilated his body and likes wearing woman's clothes.
He has gender dysphoria
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Chopping your willy off, putting a wig, heals and a dress doesn't make you a woman.
It makes you a man who self multilated his body and likes wearing woman's clothes.
He has gender dysphoria
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how do you define fake?
and how are you defining the difference between male and female?
Original post by sh9
I just don't understand it at all. What is "ze" "xe"?.
Some people are getting far too desperate to be different in today's world and it's taking the piss.
I can't even ask for no gherkins on my McDonald's burger because they "don't do special requests', what makes these special little snowflakes think they can request that people call them "XE" just because they want to identify as anything from a currency exchange website to a Jaguar sports car.
Some people are getting far too desperate to be different in today's world and it's taking the piss.
I can't even ask for no gherkins on my McDonald's burger because they "don't do special requests', what makes these special little snowflakes think they can request that people call them "XE" just because they want to identify as anything from a currency exchange website to a Jaguar sports car.
Great post.
Original post by TimmonaPortella
I understand them.
They mean: this person is probably annoying.
They mean: this person is probably annoying.
And again.
wowie how would you even pronounce that?!
Original post by Flowersong
how do you define fake?
and how are you defining the difference between male and female?
and how are you defining the difference between male and female?
I define it as made up. This is getting tedious
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