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Bin Laden told followers not to 'waste [their] effort' attacking the UK

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Original post by King-Panther
Shame he died years ago.


I hate to ask, but how do you know all this inside stuff?
Original post by Banishingboredom
I hate to ask, but how do you know all this inside stuff?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpsvaTIa7Kc&feature=endscreen

Pakistani (ex) prime minister saying he was killed years ago (before march last year), even members of the US government admitted he was dead years ago, like Madeleine Albright and steve pieczenik.

"Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001“

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/05/05/osama-bin-laden-already-becoming-the-new-roswell/
(edited 11 years ago)
Original post by f1mad
Oh dear.

Here we go again.

Conspiracy theory number 1, 2, 3.... infinity....

Circular argument.

To quote another poster:


i don't subscribe to this whole 'zeitgeist conspiracy' bandwagon, but anyone who thinks those 2 pictures are of the same man is an idiot.
Original post by ChampEon
Al Qaeda/CIA/Mossad are all equivalent so these 'files' mean nothing.


Indeed, even on a BBC documentary (power of nightmares) it was confirmed al qaeda do not exist, they were created by the US government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEBQY63skvY&feature=related

Original post by Banishingboredom
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Original post by King-Panther
Indeed, even on a BBC documentary (power of nightmares) it was confirmed al qaeda do not exist, they were created by the US government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEBQY63skvY&feature=related


Exactly. There is so much evidence showing the US federal govt as the real terrorists. Thousands and thousands of videos of explanations and witness accounts. But for some reason people believe everything they hear in mainstream media and are turned into sheep. Tbh I never believed all this nonsense 'Islamic terrorist' crap we've been fed for the past 20 years. It reeks of bull****.
Original post by ChampEon
Exactly. There is so much evidence showing the US federal govt as the real terrorists. Thousands and thousands of videos of explanations and witness accounts. But for some reason people believe everything they hear in mainstream media and are turned into sheep. Tbh I never believed all this nonsense 'Islamic terrorist' crap we've been fed for the past 20 years. It reeks of bull****.


Right and remind me what their motivation for all this is? Let alone the industrial sized cover-up that would surely be required. Also when Obama came into office he could have blown it all sky high by revealing the extent of the Republican conspiracy that would have kept them safe in office for years. It would be a nice one to blame all the economic issues on given the amount spent on war and the terror fighting operations.

Also does all the 'Islamic terrorist crap' include the attacks (successful and failed) in London and elsewhere in the world?


yeah, shame al qeada dont exist.
Original post by Banishingboredom
Right and remind me what their motivation for all this is? Let alone the industrial sized cover-up that would surely be required.


"$747.3 billion -- has been allocated to the war in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion there in 2003"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/01/14/afghanistan-iraq-usa-costs-idUSN1415708320100114

40% of the 15 trillion US economy depends on oil every year, 40 % of 15 trillion is 6 trililion, so they've made there money back in just over a month and after that its all profit.

No, how was it al qaeda, it was me, here you are, I admit it, and at least you can say you spoke to the culprit directly.


"Greenspan admits Iraq was about oil, as deaths put at 1.2m"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/16/iraq.iraqtimeline



Also when Obama came into office he could have blown it all sky high by revealing the extent of the Republican conspiracy that would have kept them safe in office for years. It would be a nice one to blame all the economic issues on given the amount spent on war and the terror fighting operations.


What makes you think that that obama is not allies with the rest of the government?


Also does all the 'Islamic terrorist crap' include the attacks (successful and failed) in London and elsewhere in the world?


which failed attacks?? how do you know about them, who told you?
No, because they can't be orchestrated.
Original post by King-Panther
"$747.3 billion -- has been allocated to the war in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion there in 2003"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/01/14/afghanistan-iraq-usa-costs-idUSN1415708320100114

40% of the 15 trillion US economy depends on oil every year, 40 % of 15 trillion is 6 trililion, so they've made there money back in just over a month and after that its all profit.

No, how was it al qaeda, it was me, here you are, I admit it, and at least you can say you spoke to the culprit directly.


"Greenspan admits Iraq was about oil, as deaths put at 1.2m"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/16/iraq.iraqtimeline





What makes you think that that obama is not allies with the rest of the government?




which failed attacks?? how do you know about them, who told you?
No, because they can't be orchestrated.


Your arguments are so full of holes that I'm not going to rise to them anymore.
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Original post by King-Panther
Well it didn't cost the lives of the people who matter (if they're going to allow 3,000 to die on 911, I'm sure they don't care much about the troops), the elite didn't die nor have they, and even then the total is not even close to 50,000 lives.

4 trillion dollars ?????

"$747.3 billion -- has been allocated to the war in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion there in 2003"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/01/14/afghanistan-iraq-usa-costs-idUSN1415708320100114

40% of the 15 trillion US economy depends on oil every year, 40 % of 15 trillion is 6 trililion, so they've made there money back in just over a month and after that its all profit.

No, how was it al qaeda, it was me, here you are, I admit it, and at least you can say you spoke to the culprit directly.


"Greenspan admits Iraq was about oil, as deaths put at 1.2m"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/16/iraq.iraqtimeline



CLarify your statement on 40% of the US economy relying on the war in Iraq, because it's bull.

One man, one banker, saying something does not make it so, everyone knows oil exports to the US from the Middle East have dropped since the invasion.

And what retard tries to make a point about politicians not fighting in wars :facepalm2:
Slightly related to the thread;


Al-Qaeda has released a statement saying they are nothing like ''mass-killer'' Breivik. They said they would never attack a Youth Camp..
Original post by King-Panther
"$747.3 billion -- has been allocated to the war in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion there in 2003"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/01/14/afghanistan-iraq-usa-costs-idUSN1415708320100114

40% of the 15 trillion US economy depends on oil every year, 40 % of 15 trillion is 6 trililion, so they've made there money back in just over a month and after that its all profit.

No, how was it al qaeda, it was me, here you are, I admit it, and at least you can say you spoke to the culprit directly.


"Greenspan admits Iraq was about oil, as deaths put at 1.2m"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/sep/16/iraq.iraqtimeline




If 9/11 was orchestrated as an excuse to invade Iraq, how come the US government blamed it on Saudis, their allies?
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Reply 33
Original post by King-Panther
How about you attack the argument.


There's nothing to attack.

It's a circular argument; I'm not going to waste my time.
Reply 34
Original post by Steevee
CLarify your statement on 40% of the US economy relying on the war in Iraq, because it's bull.

One man, one banker, saying something does not make it so, everyone knows oil exports to the US from the Middle East have dropped since the invasion.

And what retard tries to make a point about politicians not fighting in wars :facepalm2:


Don't waste your time arguing against such nonsencial posts :tongue:.
Original post by Steevee
CLarify your statement on 40% of the US economy relying on the war in Iraq, because it's bull.

One man, one banker, saying something does not make it so, everyone knows oil exports to the US from the Middle East have dropped since the invasion.

And what retard tries to make a point about politicians not fighting in wars :facepalm2:




Fuel type
2006 US consumption in PWh[19] 2006 World consumption in PWh[20]
Oil 11.71 50.33
Gas 6.50 31.65
Coal 6.60 37.38
Hydroelectric 0.84 8.71
Nuclear 2.41 8.14
Geothermal, wind,
solar, wood, waste 0.95 1.38
Total 29.26 138.41


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_the_United_States

How about we here it from the goats mouth “Our entire economy depends on the expectation that energy will be plentiful, available, and affordable."

http://www.americanenergyindependence.com/security.aspx

There you go, the first link states the US consumes 50% of the worlds oil and the government admit their economy depends on oil. So, if they had no oil, their trains would not run, their cars wouldn't move, their planes wouldn't fly, the country would come to a halt.

"Most of U.S. oil is used for transportation: 72% of it goes directly to gasoline, diesel fuel, and jet fuel. (Gasoline represents 46% all consumption.) Ninety-five percent of America’s modes of transportation—that would be planes, trains, trucks, boats, barges, and automobiles—run off petroleum products. "

http://www.ecoleaf.com/green_energy/petroleumgaspowerplants.html
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Original post by f1mad
Don't waste your time arguing against such nonsencial posts :tongue:.


Abusive ad hominem (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to attack his claim or invalidate his argument, but can also involve pointing out true character flaws or actions that are irrelevant to the opponent's argument.

Ad hominem attacks are ultimately self-defeating. They are equivalent to admitting that you have lost the argument.
Original post by Captain Haddock
If 9/11 was orchestrated as an excuse to invade Iraq, how come the US government blamed it on Saudis, their allies?


No, it was orchestrated to attack all muslim countries....
Original post by Banishingboredom
Some of the files recently recovered show that Bin Laden thought it pointless attacking the UK and said they should instead focus exclusively on the US:

"'Even though we have the chance to attack the British, we should not waste our effort to do so but concentrate on defeating America, which will lead to defeating the others, God Willing...Any arrow and mine we have should be directed against Americans, disregarding all other enemies, including Nato, and concentrating on Americans only."

Thoughts?


thoughts? can't say I don't welcome this news, living in the UK and all.
Original post by xXxiKillxXx
Al-Qaeda has released a statement saying they are nothing like ''mass-killer'' Breivik. They said they would never attack a Youth Camp..


Wow, you know you're bad when Al-Qaeda say you've gone too far!

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