TV license, I don't see how they can legally send round a enforcer to my flat at uni.

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AidanLunn

God, it's like living in Nazi Germany! If I don't share the same opinion as someone else, i get punished!!!

What like being forced to pay for a state broadcaster like the socialists who at that time were called socialists (The National Socialist German Workers Party) :rolleyes:

AidanLunn

It's not just a TV broadcaster - it's a *Worldwide* TV broadcaster. It's also a worldwide radio broadcaster.

So YOU pay for your precious BBC for crying out loud wtf is wrong with you.

You know I can see why you have so many warnings now.

AidanLunn

Because that's how broadcasting works. Rules are there to be broken.

So why was you going on about they're ruddy charter then to defend them and now admit they break it, crikey

AidanLunn

Tell me, what on Earth have communism and heat got to do with each other, because in your illogical logic, there seems to be some link.

You're precious BBC and communism are related

AidanLunn

N. Korean TV broadcasters all broadcast TV propaganda. They have to. It's the law there.

And it's not the law here however the BBC do it here and abroad at our expense

AidanLunn

Here, the BBC have to be totally impartial, even to the extent that they aren't allowed to broadcast an appeal video (or whatever it was) about victims in the Middle East. Remember that? It was created by a political party in one of those Middle eastern countries.

Total bull crap again. Hell Israel dropped BBC news for Al Jazeera because even they were more neutral than you're BBC LOL

AidanLunn

You only call them left-wingers because you are, like me, a right-winger

Don't dare compare yourself to me because I would never threaten someone with fines and then prison if they fail to contribute towards what I watch on TV :mad:

AidanLunn

Of course I do. Durrrrrr

Which explains why you are still talking rubbish here in order to defend the undependable.

AidanLunn

And you can't generalise the public as Sky-loving and BBC-hating, because everyone is different.

I agree however you are the one forcing them all to pay the BBC which clearly isn't in they're interests and for you to decide.

AidanLunn

Many people DO love the BBC. It's just that you, in your limited thought power that decides to brand everyone who doesn't agree with your opinion as "BBC employees".

SO MAKE IT VOLUNTARY AND YOU'LL SEE JUST HOW MANY LOVE THE BBC.

I'm sick of "people" like you trying to make out you speak for everyone when in reality you are nothing more than a communist troll.

AidanLunn

I never said that. please say where I mention that people will go out on the streets in riots just because Mock the Week is no longer being made?

You'll do it when the BBC TV Licence is scrapped because that would be the end of you're propaganda

AidanLunn

I said that without proper regulation, TV stations will do what the hell they like and I used the *example* of there being no laws for us to live under in our democracy.

And so be it our broadcasters shouldn't be told how to run they're business by a group of idiots (some not even elected like our PM)

I'm not even bothering to read the rest of the rubbish you've written because thus far you've proven you're nothing more than a left wing BBC troll who will say anything to justify locking single parents and low income families up if they can't contribute to-wards what you happen to like watching.

You can keep re-typing the same rubbish where you deny what you've already said but I wont be playing your left wing games anymore. Clearly another good thing about scrapping the BBC TV licence would mean you having to get a real job

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AidanLunn

Sao Paulo

So YOU pay for your precious BBC for crying out loud wtf is wrong with you.

You know I can see why you have so many warnings now.

There's something wrong with me just because I don't agree with you?

Maybe there's something wrong with you because you don't agree with me? Swings and roundabouts . . .

And those warnings were for swearing on other posts. "so many warnings" - 2??? I've seen other people with far more warnings than that (18 for example). You'd find them if you just looked around this forum a bit more.

I seriously don't know why you are against the BBC recieving far too much of our hard-earned money, yet you can't see that Sky would survive easily if the subscription fee was scrapped.

Sao Paulo

So why was you going on about they're ruddy charter then to defend them and now admit they break it, crikey

Because those rules are broken in the interests of the public. We have a right to know e.g. Paxo asking loads of questions of Newsnight to politicans who have a good reason not to want to answer them.

Do the commercial channels (apart from C4) bother doing this? I haven't seen them.

Sao Paulo

You're precious BBC and communism are related

Your precious commercial channels and biased broadcasting are related!

Sao Paulo

And it's not the law here however the BBC do it here and abroad at our expense

OK, apart from general and local elections, when was the last time they showed a labour party political broadcast.

If they were that left-leaning then why did they allow Nick Griffin on Question Time?

Also, this bias accusation of the BBC seems to swing to the political leanings of whichever party is in power. When Thatch was PM, the BBC were accused by many members of the popublic as having a right-wing view. So once the Tories get in again, they'll get accused of changing their political ideology to right-wing from left-wing.

And I've already explained that not a penny of our license fee go towards the BBC's worldwide operations, operated by BBC Worldwide, a separate, private company operating on behalf of the BBC.

Sao Paulo

Total bull crap again. Hell Israel dropped BBC news for Al Jazeera because even they were more neutral than you're BBC LOL

I suggest you look back in time about 6-9 months to see what I mean.

Sao Paulo

Don't dare compare yourself to me because I would never threaten someone with fines and then prison if they fail to contribute towards what I watch on TV :mad:

Well, Sky do exactly the same if you don't pay their subscription fees. While Sky may not be essential, the point still stands. I want Sky, but i don't want to pay for it, yet I get punished if I dpon't pay that racist Australian ****!

I don't see why I should pay BT even though I am with TalkTalk broadband just because they own the telephone lines. Why can't TalkTalk actually *own* their share of the telephone lines?

I don't see why i should pay British Gas just because they own the gas pipes.

Sao Paulo

Which explains why you are still talking rubbish here in order to defend the undependable.

If they are undefendable, then why am I defending them?

Sao Paulo

I agree however you are the one forcing them all to pay the BBC which clearly isn't in they're interests and for you to decide.

Well, Sky are the ones forcing people to pay for their service, despite earning enough from advertising and channels paying them so they can be broadcast over their satellite's transponders when they can stop charging us to watch their service.

Is that not the BBC, just on a smaller scale? Having to pay for a service, which is partly subsidised by advertising, which can, if it tries rely on advertising? (I'm not agreeing that the license fee should be scrapped, I'm just applying what you want to what Sky can do if they were bothered).

Is the TV License just not another form of Sky's subscription fee?

Sao Paulo

SO MAKE IT VOLUNTARY AND YOU'LL SEE JUST HOW MANY LOVE THE BBC.

There is a difference between how many love the BBC and how many love the TV License.

Surely you've watched a BBC programme and enjoyed it?

Sao Paulo

I'm sick of "people" like you trying to make out you speak for everyone when in reality you are nothing more than a communist troll.

And you're a fascist bully. and a troll

I have not insulted you personally (well, i did once), yet you insult me just because I don't agree with you.

And you don't give the chance for everyone to have their own opinion. I am fully in support of the Tories and that the labour party have both revolutionised and then decimated our economy, and don't know how to a mange a country (decreasing powers of police and an increase in knife crime anyone?).

If people want to be a communist then LET then be a communist. *That* is how democracy works. Although i continually disagree with your points, i am letting you have different opinions from me. You are not letting me have different opinions from you.

Sao Paulo

You'll do it when the BBC TV Licence is scrapped because that would be the end of you're propaganda

I never asked when I'll do it (which I won't - i don't get the logic of rioting in your own street - destroying your own property), I asked where did I say I'll do it (which I won't)

Sao Paulo

And so be it our broadcasters shouldn't be told how to run they're business by a group of idiots (some not even elected like our PM)

So, by that logic you're in favour of getting rid of the watershed? So that children would be exposed to swearing like in South Park and violence like in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

I'm not a moralist in any way, but I know it's very wrong for kids to be swearing at ages of 12 or younger. Because that's what'll happen. Might not seem logical,. but it will happen if the broadcasters have their way!

He may not have been elected, but if we introduce laws stating that a general election has to be called every time a PM resigns or is forced out, then we'd be stuck with Brown for the next 4 maybe 5 years as Labour were ahead in the opinion polls at the time if I remember rightly.

Sao Paulo

I'm not even bothering to read the rest of the rubbish you've written

Then why bother starting to read it?

Sao Paulo

because thus far you've proven you're nothing more than a left wing BBC troll

So I'm a troll am I just because I don't share the same opinions as you?

Maybe you're the troll because you don't agree with me?

Sao Paulo

who will say anything to justify locking single parents and low income families up if they can't contribute to-wards what you happen to like watching.

Hang on, that's a Tory attitude (see John Major - back to basics), yet you accuse the Beeb of being left-wing.

Well done, you've just contradicted yourself!!! Give him a clap everybody

(cheesy studio gameshow applause)

And I don't see any left-wing policies who are against working-class families or single-mothers! And I was brought up in a single-parent household!

You're a Tory supporter, yet you are in support of the working class?

You need to research the Tory party of the 1980s to see what the party i support can really be like with a strong leader :smile:

Sao Paulo

You can keep re-typing the same rubbish where you deny what you've already said but I wont be playing your left wing games anymore. Clearly another good thing about scrapping the BBC TV licence would mean you having to get a real job

Yeah - doing the same technical job I would have done at the BBC at an indie.

In fact, the BBC gets most of it's output from independents, which the BBC pay.

So Shooting Stars (Pett productions) *could* go to another channel if the Beeb xed it.

But seeing as ITV and 5 have no interest in commissioning new comedy, and the ratings on Sky would be too low to justify carrying on making it, I don't think it's likely.

Although there would be a strong possibility of C4 picking it up if it were to change channels!

Oh, and you typed out that last paragraph in red - a communist colour :smile:

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Sao Paulo

Maybe there's something wrong with you because you don't agree with me? Swings and roundabouts . .

I'm not the one demanding you pay for what I watched you loony toon.

Yawn as I said I can't be arsed reading more tripe.

I'm Still not contributing to you're precious BBC AidanLunn so you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

The BBC is the mouth piece of left wing ********* like you end off. You know it's rubbish which is why you carry on like you do demanding people subsidise it for you

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randdom

Can people please calm down as this isn't really contributing anything to the thread topic

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Sao Paulo

Sorry if it came across that I needed calming down but I've delt with people like him before. I know he's just trying to bait me but at the end of the day at least I'm not demanding anything from people our comrade

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hslt

Sao Paulo

Meh, I thought you were both funny - though the other guy slightly more for the number of times he called you a communist...?!?

Anyway, the tv license is potentially being used to support all public tv services (therefore preventing hilarious lack of information and possibly maintaining non-government controlled media) - public services meaning the news programmes.

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Sao Paulo

hslt

Anyway, the tv license is potentially being used to support all public tv services (therefore preventing hilarious lack of information and possibly maintaining non-government controlled media) - public services meaning the news programmes.

Unfortunately the idea of that is to make it harder to abolish the TV Licence but allot of the left haven't worked that one out yet because they're still moaning about non BBC stations getting a penny

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FormerlyHistoryStudent

Isn't it a bit selfish of non- TV license payers though, to expect to be able to watch TV for free when it means other people surely have to end up paying for that as well as their own TV-watching?

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hslt

Sao Paulo

just realised i got it wrong, he was the communist!! Fun times!!

I personally don't care about the TV license, nor do I see it as communist, nor do i see the american culture as a good one to follow (it being the culture that most people who call ours 'communist' seem to want to emulate).

In fact I quite like a lot of BBC programmes and so don't mind paying for them. Basically the only channels worth watching are the channel 4 owned things and the bbc owned things, and occassionally football on itv.

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FormerlyHistoryStudent

hslt

Meh, I thought you were both funny - though the other guy slightly more for the number of times he called you a communist...?!?

It was Sao Paolo who was calling AidanLunn a communist all the time, not the other way round. Not that I'm that bothered either way round, I'm just being pedantic.

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Sao Paulo

FormerlyHistoryStudent

It was Sao Paolo who was calling AidanLunn a communist all the time, not the other way round. Not that I'm that bothered either way round, I'm just being pedantic.

And then he called it me which was the funny part because AidanLunn is for a communist system :wink:

Remember what Winston Churchill said about people like AidanLunn

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

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Sao Paulo

hslt

In fact I quite like a lot of BBC programmes and so don't mind paying for them. Basically the only channels worth watching are the channel 4 owned things and the bbc owned things, and occassionally football on itv.

You know thats great, I don't have a problem with people who like the BBC however I would prefer for them to pay for it via a voluntary subscription fee so I'm not classed as a criminal and single parents & OAPs stop getting fined or sent to prison

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mistermeowingtons

Irrespective of whether or not you agree with it, having a tv licence is the law. If you want to break this particular law, you can't exactly be angry at them trying to enforce it.

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Ronnie01

I've got a mathematics lecturer who refuses to pay his TV license, and he seems pretty cool.

So yeah! It's unenforcable if you're savvy enough.

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numb3rb0y

FormerlyHistoryStudent

Isn't it a bit selfish of non- TV license payers though, to expect to be able to watch TV for free when it means other people surely have to end up paying for that as well as their own TV-watching?

Only in the sense that it's selfish to install home security in a high-crime neighbourhood.

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FormerlyHistoryStudent

numb3rb0y

Only in the sense that it's selfish to install home security in a high-crime neighbourhood.

I don't think so. Home security is optional, not a legal requirement like a TV license. Whether or not you choose to get home security has no affect on other people, but if you refuse to get a license then other people surely are affected.

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Sao Paulo

mistermeowingtons

Irrespective of whether or not you agree with it, having a tv licence is the law. If you want to break this particular law, you can't exactly be angry at them trying to enforce it.

Window taxes were law at one time too which is why you sometimes see old buildings with bricked up windows still. The truth is the BBC "people" can't keep hiding behind the law. Use common sense and realise you can't hold an entire country ramson just because you happen to like the BBC

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Sao Paulo

Ronnie01

I've got a mathematics lecturer who refuses to pay his TV license, and he seems pretty cool.

So yeah! It's unenforcable if you're savvy enough.

Correct, I know people who have gone longer than the 20yrs I have gone without paying the filth

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numb3rb0y

FormerlyHistoryStudent

My point is that the TV licence's terms mean some people are going to be forced to pay for it whether they want to, or are going to use the services it funds, or not. This is analogous to theft. Your logic is that if I don't pay, others around me will pay for me. Well, if that is the case, then if I install home security in a high crime neighbourhood, I am forcing my neighbours to have their things stolen more to make up for the lack of theft on my property.

tl;dr claiming someone morally culpable for thefts from others due to personal protection from theft is absurd

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efprice

But they say on their site that you don't need a license if you watch on-demand programming. Just because they see a TV, that doesn't prove to them that you're watching or recording live TV. I'm really curious to know exactly what they check for.