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You can tell Murray's making these subtle improvements getting him closer and closer to a GS. I don't think the Murray of 2 years ago would have saved a virtual match point in a GS semi with an ace, or play his best tennis when he really needed it in the tiebreak. He'd have gone tight and missed the serve and gone passive to give the other guy a chance to hit through him. Not sure if it'll be enough on Sunday considering Djokovic's form but he's getting closer and closer to the level he needs to be at mentally.

Looking forward to the final. Novak edges the H2H 4-3 but the last 3 times they've played Murray has won. Hard court H2H is 3-3. Don't think it matters considering their last game was in Miami 2009, but the fact they don't play very often has got me really looking forward to this one. First ever matchup in a slam.

also i would say if its hot and it goes long i would give murray the advantage as djokovic

The final is played at night so I doubt heat will be a problem.

A lot of people think Muray played poorly but this clearly isn't the case. It was his concentration that let him down. He had the chances, he converted alot of them, but holding onto breaks requires concentration and he didn't have any. He played well and got into good positions but his concentration failed him.

Had his concentration been better he'd have won 6-3 6-4 6-1 or something. He was up a break in set 1, 2 and 4 and had 15-40 at 4-4 in the first. He's definetely playing well enoguh though.

Be a different story if he was English?

Really, no English person has the right to talk about the hype Andy Murray get's. What was that? World Cup Winners 2010? Atleast he actually get's to finals.

Ewww, I just realised your one of those ignorant Federer Fangirls.

He didn't play that great. He was playing too passively and not aggresively enough. His groundstrokes were too slow, not deep enough, and he was inviting Ferrer to attack him. Ferrer took the invitation and all too often was dictating rallies and bullying Murray into mistakes. Murray did not take the initiative but thankfully he did when it came to the tie-breaks.

I'm not saying he played great just not poorly. Although at the level he was playing (which you think was pretty low) a 6-3 6-4 6-1 win was very feasible considering the chances he had.

So you're saying a 6-3 6-4 6-1 win (or something along those lines) equates to playing poorly? Definetely not. I thought he played pretty well with a LOT of lapses in concentration which made him play small patches poorly but lapses in concentration is different to playing poorly.

'Federer Fangirl'? Wow, catchy phrase. No, I just happen to prefer his style of playing over Murray's, and it was watching Federer in the early years that provoked my interest in tennis.

I couldn't care less whether Murray was English or Scottish or whatever. I don't really understand what you're trying to say, but my problem with the Murray hype is that tennis only gets coverage when he plays or when he reaches a GS semi-final/final. The BBC - as well as irritating Murray fans - seem to put patriotism over actual appreciation of the sport and I'm not the only one who gets pissed off by that.

Oh god, the thought of Murray winning makes me feel sick...I'd have to ban myself from all newspapers and televisions for at least a month! We'd never hear the end of it. And all those ghastly Murray fans...
No, this is Djokovic's time to win. At least now Fed's out my nerves won't suffer so much on Sunday!

Murray wasn't convincing in the opening two sets. Thereafter he improved markedly, IMO. He took the initiative much more often in sets 3 and 4.

Where exactly have I said Murray played poorly? Don't put words in my mouth.

What was very feasible was Ferrer winning the second set. Ferrer had a break point to go two sets up to the good. From that position there'd have been no way back for Murray. That close to very feasibly losing the second set and getting knocked out of the competition in 3 straight sets.

There was a fair amount of times Murray broke Ferrer but Ferrer did the same to Murray and Ferrer played very well but his standard did deteriorate whilst Murray's also went up after that 2nd set.

Yes, there were arguably lapses in Murray's concentration but I think some/alot of this was down to the fella on the other side of the net and what he was doing. Ferrer was the better player in the first set and he was very close to winning the second.

Lapses in concentration/playing poorly - you can't always seperate the two. It isn't that black and white. The former can lead to the latter. Murray lost his focus at times but Ferrer's standard of play got Murray really worried. You should be paying more respect to how Ferrer played. Murray did at the end of the match - you could tell how brutal this match was for both players. Murray complimenting Ferrer hugely in his post match chatter with Courier and the way he was hobbling about before exiting the court at the end of the bbc2 coverage - the lad was knackered and he was made to work very hard for his win by Ferrer.

**** off essentially.



Should be an immense final.

Murray just about did the job today, I never felt he was going to lose even when down SP in the 2nd but if he'd lost or lost that 4th then it would have hindered him in the final. Brilliant tennis in the 3rd and start of 4th, why not just play that way from the off instead of rallying with Ferrer? Baffling

I don't care who you support and for what reasons but the fact is you clearly have a problem with Murray and for what reason, you have haven't stated. You have problem's with his 'irritating' fans

'tennis only get's coverage when he plays'. I think you'll find so far the past fortnight the BBC have televised every night session featuring 4 different players, and bearing in mind most of Murray's matches were played during the day Australian Time we got that aswell. Basically what I'm saying is what your saying is pretty pathetic. Of course he get's coverage in the 4 Grand Slams but that was the same with Tim Henman and Greg Rusedski. At the 4 majors all matches on the top court are televised and at Wimbledon you get a selection from pretty much any court you want.

As for the hype: What do you expect? It was the same for Greg and Rusedki and it wasn't going to change when Andy appeared. The hype isn't something that Andy can do anything about and it happens in all sports for all countries. England for the football for example. The hype there is worse han Murray's. I mean Scottish schools don't get off every time Andy's playing in a big tournament, so why do England?

I've met a lot of nice Federer fans who RESPECT other players and I usually don't like slagging of others myself either, but when deluded Federer fans come along like yourself who show hatred towards other player's when they've done nothing wrong, I have a lot to say on the issue.

How many times as Federer given praise to his opponent when he's lost? How much respect does he give player's such as Murray, Rafa etc.? Not a lot. Remember when Federer started crying when Rafa won I think Wimbledon and again at the Australian Open? He took away Rafa's moment. A man with double figures in Grand Slams crying.

He only ever gives praise to his opponent's when he wins. There are some seriously crazy and stuck-up Federer fans.

And btw, what reason(s) do you have for disliking Andy Murray?

I don't care who you support and for what reasons but the fact is you clearly have a problem with Murray and for what reason, you have haven't stated. You have problem's with his 'irritating' fans

'tennis only get's coverage when he plays'. I think you'll find so far the past fortnight the BBC have televised every night session featuring 4 different players, and bearing in mind most of Murray's matches were played during the day Australian Time we got that aswell. Basically what I'm saying is what your saying is pretty pathetic. Of course he get's coverage in the 4 Grand Slams but that was the same with Tim Henman and Greg Rusedski. At the 4 majors all matches on the top court are televised and at Wimbledon you get a selection from pretty much any court you want.

As for the hype: What do you expect? It was the same for Greg and Rusedki and it wasn't going to change when Andy appeared. The hype isn't something that Andy can do anything about and it happens in all sports for all countries. England for the football for example. The hype there is worse han Murray's. I mean Scottish schools don't get off every time Andy's playing in a big tournament, so why do England?

I've met a lot of nice Federer fans who RESPECT other players and I usually don't like slagging of others myself either, but when deluded Federer fans come along like yourself who show hatred towards other player's when they've done nothing wrong, I have a lot to say on the issue.

How many times as Federer given praise to his opponent when he's lost? How much respect does he give player's such as Murray, Rafa etc.? Not a lot. Remember when Federer started crying when Rafa won I think Wimbledon and again at the Australian Open? He took away Rafa's moment. A man with double figures in Grand Slams crying.

He only ever gives praise to his opponent's when he wins. There are some seriously crazy and stuck-up Federer fans.

And btw, what reason(s) do you have for disliking Andy Murray?

Murray just managed to hold it in today's match, it wasn't his best.

The final should be good, feel sorry for Murray he just can't seem to win a grand slam...I think it's a British curse or something! All our tennis players have been the "nearly" guys. Hope he puts an end to that.

Let's face it though, the final won't produce classic world class tennis like a Nadal vs Federer final always does but Murray and Djokovic are closely matched so should be good!