Girls: Pole Dancing?

I was actually replying to py0alb.

Some of the points you're making are shocking. The whole point is that they're taking something that could potentially be demeaning and using it for their own good and NOT using it in a way that would please men or support the suppression of women.

I think it's empowering. Surely you should support the idea that more women are trying it out...

Thank you so much for this! No, no one else seems to have joined in, and no one else seems to have guessed the uni either. I thought it was pretty obvious from the bit about sports, too

You've basically just confirmed everything I've read so far (not in this thread!) about the soc, about it having a good reputation and everything else. It does sound like they're a really nice group of people (is it all girls?), which is reassuring because I think that society (as a "subject", I mean) in particular could be really awful to join if all the girls were really bitchy or something. So yeah, it does sound good and although I'll probably be really nervous I think I might join too

I'm also curious now as to what the other one is now PM me?

When did I say that?

just one example here..

Flo[ProActiv]: I have my lessons in a small studio, not in a nightclub. And the only people who ever see me are the other people in my class.

py0alb: Well don't worry about it, everyone has to start somewhere.

Sorry I think I miscommunicated my point badly. I'm not saying being sexually or embracing ones sexuality is a bad thing - just not under certain circumstances i.e. strip clubs. Strip clubs are degrading to women. Men go to them and essentially chuck money at women to sexually arroused. The stripper is not really empowered by turning them on and taking their money by degrading herself in the process.

Although doing a pole dancing class isn't the circumstances it is still associated with the origins of it. If you compare it to race, racism has come along way of being totally unacceptable... but think of all the comments in day today life we just accept and take for granted?

oh come on now, I thought that was pretty damn funny.

lol. Feminists always manage to ruin everything. Pole-dancing (non-professional, that is) should be a fun way for women to gain confidence in themselves and simultaneously. It is risque and sexual, that's the whole point of it. Obviously if you do it professionally, or you like to post endless pictures and videos of yourself doing it on facebook (as a friend of mine loves doing), you shouldn't be surprised if you face some kind of social stigma for it.

I also don't see anything particularly wrong with a university having a pole-dancing society.

I also don't see anything particularly wrong with a university having a pole-dancing society.

It is risque and sexual, that's the whole point of it.

Nor has anyone else on this thread stated it is wrong.

Nor has anyone else on this thread stated it is wrong.

I agree pole dancing classes should not be supported by universities. Pole dancing although a talented and demanding 'sport' on face value has under and over tones of sexuality due to it's association with being sexest and degrading women to women in the commericial world.

I wonder if women would watch male pole dancers

Actually, that's not true:

Alexedcoms: "I agree pole dancing classes should not be supported by universities."

Oh, I missed that part of the debate!

Needless to say I disagree. What is degrading to one woman may be empowering to another, and I don't believe one has the right to force their belief on the other (as long as no harm is involved).

@ Goape - thats the point - harm is being done even if you may not think it is or intend it.

So what is your position? That pole dancing clubs / strip clubs should be banned?

It depends on your definition of them, but yes.