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Reply 180
Original post by Chloe xxx
The irony. Why don't you respond to your blatant mistake in your first feeble attack? No, thought not.


It wasnt a mistake.
If you READ what I was saying in the other thread to that 'dog' guy or whatever his name means in arabic, it'll make sense.:rolleyes:
Original post by maleeha95
Its what hes trying to say.

Idiot.


No he was not.

Learn to read.

Idiot.
Reply 182
Original post by Indo-Chinese Food
Asian culture native to asia is not islamic - it doesn have anything in it that advocates violence against women or rights to take and rape female slaves. Those are islamic edicts, which are arabian rather than asian, that haddeth confirm were practiced by mohammed - the founder of the religion. Hnece why we are seeing all of the child grooming sex cases being purpotrated by muslims in the uk, the fact they are pakistani is coincidental.

The daily mail is trying to state they are mainly asians, muslims or tsr are trying to state they are mainly pakistani, and pakistanis on tsr are tyring to state they are mainly kashmiri pakistanis. All of that re-blaming is rubbish tbh - the commonal link to ALL cases is that they are all muslim, and islam allows taking of multiple wives and sex slaves by men for sexual gratification - mohammed allowed this practice himself.

The same link has been made with honour killings in the uk, which it is said is mainly muslim crime - not jsut pakistani, but also iraqi, afgani, even east european- but in all those cases, muslims were invloved.


People have to understand times have changed, such a thing is lost in translation by the Islam scholars and others interpreting the religion. I do not think this is right, yet I have seen cases of polygamy (not in my family in question but elsewhere here and there). This is contradictory BS. You cannot have an affair, yet have more than one wife.
Reply 183
Original post by ras90
No he was not.

Learn to read.

Idiot.


Unlike you, I can.
Idiot.
Reply 184
Original post by maleeha95
You're trying to say all crimes that happen in the UK are by Muslims? haha wake up kid.


muchmmore than by non-muslims.
Reply 185
Original post by mr_doctor
People have to understand times have changed, such a thing is lost in translation by the Islam scholars and others interpreting the religion. I do not think this is right, yet I have seen cases of polygamy (not in my family in question but elsewhere here and there). This is contradictory BS. You cannot have an affair, yet have more than one wife.


As was pointed out, they can always perform muta and get away with shagging anyone, even dirty sinning whores :wink: Such is the fantastic life of the muslim male.
Original post by maleeha95
Unlike you, I can.
Idiot.


I am guessing you are 16 or 17 - user name.

You really dont have a clue about how the world works, so please be quiet.

You probably still have pocket money.

Please be quiet.
Original post by Chloe xxx
Prepare for the apologists to come out in force, with a few of the classic muslim/south asian excuses-

Excuse 1# They arnt a 'real' muslim.
Excuse 2# How do you even know they are muslim, or pakistani or even asian. They could all be white just with arabic names :wink:
Excuse 3# Your wacist/fascist and have an agenda against muslims
Excuse 4# What about all the white rapists, theres more of them
Excuse 5# What about Catholic Priests, no one ever mentions their religion might be a cause of their crimes (yes they do, and funnily enough no catholic apologists come out crazily defending in a sickening way)
Excuse #6 It can't have anything at all to do with Islam or backward culture, the religion is peaceful and so are muslims (we all know this is a joke)

And so on...I could be here all day :smile:



I dont understand why so much attention is given to muslims ONLY if they commit crimes like this. (i am aware that its against the teaching of islam).

BUT people of other religions have committed worst crimes in the past so there's no need to pick on one specific religion.

just because someone is muslim does not mean they are perfect. everyone is different. some people are more practicing than others so there is an individual difference. .
Reply 188
Original post by Chloe xxx
As was pointed out, they can always perform muta and get away with shagging anyone, even dirty sinning whores :wink: Such is the fantastic life of the muslim male.


I personally would not do that, even by performing muta. But I wouldn't look down at anyone who will do so. I will however look down at people who are pedophiles/rapist of any religion and have no excuse of doing so, since they're breaking the laws of the country they are living in.
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It's not all Muslims, just Pakistani ones. Every time I read a news article like this, it's the same type of people. It's not "Muslim sex gangs", it's "Pakistani sex gangs".
Original post by Love Of My Life <3
I dont understand why so much attention is given to muslims ONLY if they commit crimes like this. (i am aware that its against the teaching of islam).

BUT people of other religions have committed worst crimes in the past so there's no need to pick on one specific religion.

just because someone is muslim does not mean they are perfect. everyone is different. some people are more practicing than others so there is an individual difference. .


It is very simple.

The average Muslim in the UK is more likely to be convicted as part of a sex gang than any other group of people.

Clear?
Original post by harmony_01
I come from a Pakistani background. Parts of my (Punjabi) culture are misogynistic, not being allowed to wear the headscarf- too extreme, wives having to look after their mother-in-laws, being solely a housewife, being disreputable as a divorced woman etc. But nowhere, not once, even in my visit to Pakistan, did I find taking girls for sex, a cultural trait.


Of course, there are social problems in Pakistan but nowhere to the extent Western media presuppose and slander. If anything, the fact that we legalise the use of pornography, can contribute evidence of helping to facilitate rape.


What kind of backward culture do you have? We are living in Britain. Britain is no place for misogyny.
Original post by mr_doctor
People have to understand times have changed, such a thing is lost in translation by the Islam scholars and others interpreting the religion. I do not think this is right, yet I have seen cases of polygamy (not in my family in question but elsewhere here and there). This is contradictory BS. You cannot have an affair, yet have more than one wife.


It depends on how you apply the rules of islam - becuase they arnt made up by specific muslims, they are there in islamic literature.
The rules about 4 wives are to allow muslim men to have multiple sexual partners but within the relams of "islamic marriage" Euqally muta was proscribed by mohammed for muslim men to have sex with captive female slaves.

its also inaccurate to blame paksitanis etc - the reasons they think its ok to groom young girls for sex is becuase thats what muslims used to do-its written in isalmic hadeeth. Muslims still follow 1400 year old edicts like not eating pork or having beer, they would argue they are being more adherent than other muslims
Original post by Simple Symphony


However in reality, these gangs are not "appearing" all of a sudden. 46% of media reports are about sexual crimes, although this type of crime only makes up 3% of crimes recorded by the police. :K:


You're right about the first bit: it's been going on for years and it's incredible how long it took for the media to catch up.

But, as for the second bit, I guess it's because nobody cares about how some kid jumped on the tram without paying for their ticket or whatever, which is really what most crime is comparable to.
Original post by Indo-Chinese Food
im not aware of hindu or sikh based sterotypes tbh, i have friends who are indian and think they are decent people. Isnt sikhism an indian religion?


People say stupid stuff, like "How many arms does your God have?" and I'm there like 714-epic-facepalm.jpg

I wouldn't say it is Indian per say because India didn't exist when Sikhism was founded, and the Sikhs ruled themselves separately from the various Hindu kingdoms up until 1849.
Reply 195
Original post by Love Of My Life <3
I dont understand why so much attention is given to muslims ONLY if they commit crimes like this. (i am aware that its against the teaching of islam).

BUT people of other religions have committed worst crimes in the past so there's no need to pick on one specific religion.

just because someone is muslim does not mean they are perfect. everyone is different. some people are more practicing than others so there is an individual difference. .


The post was a response to the OP who used 'muslim' in the title. I don't think this is an Islamic problem, although the Quran and how it is interpreted is very fishy in many ways.
Original post by ras90
Huh?

Nobody mentioned asians having greater punishments than anybody else?

What are you talking about? :confused::confused:


My point was that their race is irrelevant with regards to their crime.
Original post by SaintSoldier
My point was that their race is irrelevant with regards to their crime.


It is relevant.

As a % more muslims commit these crimes than other groups.
I thought muslims were against sex before marriage? So why are sexual crimes being associated with Islam?

I'm no expert on this matter but it seems a bit weird to me.
Reply 199
Original post by littleone271
I thought muslims were against sex before marriage? So why are sexual crimes being associated with Islam?

I'm no expert on this matter but it seems a bit weird to me.


It is. Strange, because it seems many muslim men love sex, especially with non muslim women. They have the muta to get away with this too. Lucky sods, eh? :biggrin:

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