Should gay people be allowed to adopt?

I'd love to say yes, unequivocally.

I would have to put myself in the shoes of the child being adopted by a gay couple, though. Until society changes its views (which may be a while...), then I can imagine in the wrong types of schools etc. that child is going to be ridiculed and whatnot. It's about weighing up potential bullying versus a lifetime in a carehome and about which is more valuable.

I'd go for having gay parents and a loving home every time, but there's no escaping the stigma which is currently unfortunately still attached to the concept of gay parents.

I would say that children from care homes would also be bullied a high proportion of the time.
And yes, it is probably slightly more likely that a child will get bullied for having gay parents, but it is not guaranteed, and I would argue that we should deal with bullying by trying to change the attitudes of bullies rather than removing the attribute of the victim that they are being bullied for - unless anyone thinks its a good idea for us all to be carbon copies of each other.

I know you're agreeing with the pro-gay adoption lot, but I just thought I'd add to your point

In my experience, the only two people I know from care homes were the bullies rather than the bully-ees (I'm aware that's not a word!!), which is sad. They were from an environment where they felt that sorted of attitude was necessary, though. However, Tracy Beaker made care homes seem fun....

I agree with you though. The only way to target commonly held attitudes are by creating scenarios that challenge people's pre-conceptions. Sure, there might be a few victims along the way in the beginning, but the idea of gay adoption being normal and therefore not worth bullying over is only going to happen by actually pushing it forward so it does become common.

True, those from care homes can be bullies, but I've also seen them be bullied too. And the two can be related - i.e. they are bullied so they bully someone else.
But yes, we need to challenge people's views. And research (posted by NYU2012 somewhere) shows that even if children from same-sex families are bullied, that bullying has no more impact on them than any other form of bullying they might experience if they don't have gay parents. I would even argued that if you are bullied because of who your parents are that isn't as bad as being bullied for who you are - because you can't change your parents but if people don't like you then you get more upset because you feel like you're the problem. But that last sentence is just my own speculation based on my personal experience of being bullied because my parents were fat and my brother was autistic as well as being bullied for being intelligent and bad at sports.

Then fry and te mccans are bad examples. good parents dont ruin their kids image.

If the child is fine with it then so am I.

Fry himself has taken drugs...he's also very libertarian, so no, he would not have ruined your 'image' in fact every child in a 100mile radius would want to know you, and you would have respect for the sheer amazingness of the man, and let's not even get onto having gandalf as a father..

Gay adoption or no gay adoption? I can't believe people actually consider this to be a question. I for one do not mind gay marriage, they aren't hurting anyone. But gay adoption?! A gay couple should not be allowed to adopt, think of the children, they will be bullied to no end. Most will commit suicide in mid teens.

Yet studies show that same-sex parents are as good as opposite-sex parents and those who are bullied for having same-sex parents get over it as well as if it was any other kind of bullying.

What are you trying to get at? you can't just shrug gay parentage bullying as 'any other kind of bullying'. Bullying isn't natural, in fact it shouldn't exist in any form. All these other sources of bullying are just as bad as the bullying recieved due to same sex parents.

What are you trying to get at? you can't just shrug gay parentage bullying as 'any other kind of bullying'. Bullying isn't natural, in fact it shouldn't exist in any form. All these other sources of bullying are just as bad as the bullying recieved due to same sex parents.

Theres research showing that lack of male role models is harmful and no logical reason it shouldn't apply here. The research people refer to here is done by academics in vry left leaning fields like sociology. Its discussed at length if you read back.

edit: it has relevance to the post of yours he quoted

I can't actually understand anything you're saying, so I can't reply directly to you, but you seem to be going round in circles without ever producing anything coherent and properly backed up.

I bet gays would have stopped me going to the local mental hospital to provoke lunatics too what with their concern with pc.

http://www.edms.org.uk/1991-92/702.htm

boys will be boys

How are your sociopathic tendencies relevant? I don't get it.

Respect to all the non homophobes putting the kids 1st in this thread.