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Pros and Cons of European Union Membership

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Aphotic Cosmos
The European Union charter will never be amended to allow the Death Penalty - in fact, accession and membership of the EU specifically forbids that member states can have the death penalty for any crime. It's something that European legislators have been agreed on for some time and almost certainly won't change.


Yeah, since when did the EU actually do what say?

http://www.wariscrime.com/2009/03/08/news/lisbon-treaty-disagree-and-you-are-dead/
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Article taken from the same website/

/disregard source on basis of stupidity.
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Aphotic Cosmos
Article taken from the same website/

/disregard source on basis of stupidity.


Lol fair enough, its a dodgy source, but if you google "lisbon death penalty" there are a lot of people talking about it. http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GPTB_en-GBGB291GB291&q=lisbon+death+penalty

It seems to be real. I dont like it at, where the hell's my vote?
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ANd while we're on the note of cool but crazy stuff...

This Germans seem to be leading the way in Anti-EU media: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMR5ItcOhMc

This is something UKIP can only aspire to! :wink:
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I've had some conversations with people about the EU and its future. Essentially its 'heteronomous', which in a nut shell means "action that is influenced by a force outside the individual". This is exactly what the European parliament is; a force outside the individual. Immanuel Kant, drawing on Jean-Jacques Rousseau considered such an action non-moral. the EU as heteronomous, by definition, is therefore anti-autonomy, "one who gives oneself their own law". the EU totally contrasts this.


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Original post by Aphotic Cosmos
The European Union charter will never be amended to allow the Death Penalty - in fact, accession and membership of the EU specifically forbids that member states can have the death penalty for any crime. It's something that European legislators have been agreed on for some time and almost certainly won't change.


I agree with you that the European Union wouldn't ever consider making the death penalty legal.

But as one person pointed out, the Lisbon Treaty does allow for amendments similarly as the United States constitution does.

My question is, do you think the EU would amend the Lisbon Treaty in that, once you're in the EU you can't have a referendum to leave. Do you think that's possible? I certainly do think it's a possibility, which is scary.

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