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  1. Hygeia's Avatar
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    The Big UKCAT 2009 Discussion Thread - PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING
    UKCAT 2009

    I'll start with some useful resources:The main UKCAT website
    The UKCAT wiki page
    UKCAT at a glance in the wiki
    Practice resources (thanks to Lu-x)
    last year's UKCAT thread (thanks to Holsy)

    Now for some FAQs:Q: When should I sit the UKCAT?
    A. Some important dates:
    Registration opens: 01 May 2009
    Testing begins: 07 July 2009
    Registration deadline: 25 Sept 2009
    Last testing date: 09 Oct 2009
    UCAS application deadline: 15 Oct 2009
    The exact date you sit the test is up to you, some people prefer to get it out of the way early so they know their score and can decide on where to apply from there. Others would rather wait until after they have their AS level results. Bear in mind that the price does go up at the start of September.

    Q: How much does it cost?

    A. 07/07 – 31/08: £60 for those taking the test in the EU, £95 for other candidates
    01/09 – 09/10: £75 for those taking the test in the EU.

    Q: Do we need to put that we've done our UKCAT/or our score on UCAS?
    A:There's no need. UKCAT will send your scores off to the universities you're applying to that need it.

    Q: Do we get a calculator?
    A:Yes. You're given a simple, non-scientific one at your centre.

    Q: Do we have anything to write on?
    A: Yes. You will be given a double sided whiteboard with a special pen to write with. There is usually no eraser available so taking some tissues with you might be useful.

    Q: When should we arrive at the test centre?
    You should arrive at least fifteen minutes before the exam to go through the formalities and prove your identity.

    Q: What should we bring to the test centre?
    A: You should bring to the test centre a printout of the email that you were sent confirming your test registration as well as photographic identification (see the list on the UKCAT website).

    Q: What is the average score?
    A: The average score for each subtest is 600. Most candidates will score between 500-700. If your score isn't as good as you would like, it's not the end of the road. Some advice can be found in this thread

    Q: Can we discuss the questions in the UKCAT once we've sat it?
    A: No. You will sign something declaring that you agree not to.

    Q: If I do badly can I take it again?
    A: Nope, unfortunately not. You can only take the UKCAT once for each UCAS cycle so if you don't do as well as you'd have liked, you'll need to think carefully about where you are going to apply to.

    Q: What book should I buy to practice from?
    A: Various books have been recommended in the past:
    Passing the UK Clinical Aptitude Test (UKCAT) and BMAT 2009,
    Taylor, Hutton and Hutton, Learning Matters Ltd, ISBN 1844452840
    Get into Medical School - 600 UKCAT Practice Questions. Includes Full Mock Exam, comprehensive tips, techniques and explanations,
    Olivier Picard, Laetitia Tighlit, Sami Tighlit, and David Phillips, ISC Medical, ISBN 1905812094
    How to Pass the UKCAT: Unbeatable Practice for Success in the 2009 United Kingdom Clinical Aptitude Test,
    Mike Byron and Jim Clayden, Kogan Page Ltd., ISBN 0749453338
    If you have found a particularly useful book, let me know what it is and I can add it to this list.

    Q: How long should I spend on each questions?
    breakdown of timings
    (Original post by Woody.)
    UKCAT Timings
    Decision Analysis
    1 code with 26 questions – 29 minutes
    67 Seconds per question
    1m7
    Verbal Reasoning
    11 sets of 4 questions – 21 minutes
    ~30 seconds per question (28.6)
    115 seconds per set of 4 questions
    1m54
    Abstract Reasoning
    13 sets of 5 test shapes – 15 minutes
    14 seconds per question
    70 seconds per set of five questions
    1m9
    Quantitative Reasoning
    10 sets of 4 questions – 21 minutes
    31 seconds per question
    126 seconds per set of 4 questions
    2m6

    If any further questions come up I'll add them to this list to help other applicants. Any further UKCAT threads will be merged with this one.
    Last edited by Hygeia; 18-08-2009 at 08:32.
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    Re: quantitative reasoning in '600 UKCAT question' book
    Well there are several things to bear in mind:

    1 - At the UKCAT you will not have time to finish every section. It is better to do 80% of it well than rush and get it all wriong.

    2 - Judging by post on this forum and others, it is possible to get a good score by completing only half of the quantitative section. The UKCAT is marked in a mysterious way.

    3 - If you look at the practice questions on the UKCAT website and if you have taken it before, you will see that some questions are difficult, not so much because the exercises are hard to answer but because there is a lot to take in before you even get to the questions. So the trick is not to spend too much time reading everything but to get an idea of the type of info made available to you and then to go straight to the questions. Otherwise you will spend your time reading the text and not answering any questions.

    I have the 600 practice questions book myself and having scored highly at the UKCAT last year (780) but unfortunately failed at the interview stage, i can say honestly that it probably the book on the market that comes closest to the real thing. And in any case, it is best to prepare with challenging questions rather than easy one which create a sense of false confidence.
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    Re: quantitative reasoning in '600 UKCAT question' book
    I've ordered this book too.
    One question i have is how long do you think you need for preparation before you sit the exam. I was thinking of sitting it late August, so would this be a reasonable amount of time to practice questions in a few books, and use the mock test on the site? I gather you can't do much 'revision' just practice, so what are your opinions?
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    Re: quantitative reasoning in '600 UKCAT question' book
    2 weeks should be enough to get the hang of it. After that it will do your head in. Best thing to do is to practise first without worrying about the time to make sure you are thinking in the right way and then to practise in real time when you feel more comfortable.
    On the daym, the adrenaline will keep you going.Doing it real time in your kitchen is always going to be harder than at the exam, me thinks.
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    Re: quantitative reasoning in '600 UKCAT question' book
    I am thinking about getting this book now, last year I used the "Pasing the UKCAT and BMAT 2008 edition" it was **** in all fairness, i thought the test was going to be so much easier than what it was because I had heard the website practice questions were harder than the actual test I just assumed the standard would be what this book entailed.

    How wrong was I though, as I managed to get a score of 600 . This time I would be delighted to get 650 and above and I would like to know how good the "600 questions" book is relative to the real thing for people who have done both obviously.
    Thanks
    Last edited by speedystef; 02-07-2009 at 19:09.
  6. ManicJM's Avatar
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    Re: quantitative reasoning in '600 UKCAT question' book
    Just got my book through the post. It seems good, with lots of tips etc. and obviously many practice questions
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    Re: quantitative reasoning in '600 UKCAT question' book
    The Marking of the UKCAT is revealed in that book, and its generally hard in the real thing too.

    As an example i completed 22/40 of the questions last year (and i did not answer the rest of the questions in time) and scored 520 in that section.

    Which according to the book equates to 100% in the questions i answered, if i had guessed the remaining answers my score would have been substantially higher.
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    Re: quantitative reasoning in '600 UKCAT question' book
    (Original post by speedystef)
    I would like to know how good the "600 questions" book is relative to the real thing for people who have done both obviously.
    Thanks
    Well there are two sections in the book:
    1 - The practice questions, where the questions tend to be slightly harder than the exam on average because it is for practice purposes so there is more emphasis on the challenging questions (there is no need practising at length the really easy stuff)

    2 - the mock exam, which is realistic so you can test your progress.

    Overall it is a bloody good book. Certainly the most comprehensive on the market.
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    Re: quantitative reasoning in '600 UKCAT question' book
    sounds orgasmic =p
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    Ive got the 600 questions book and i was wondering how hard is the quantitative reasoning compared to the website questions. Are they really hard.
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    Re: Am i wasting my time applying?
    Deff Apply!

    UCL if your considering London they are the only reasonable one (if you get 5,5,9 in BMAT) and Barts if you get 640+ in the UKCAT.

    P.S if you need any help from choosing unis to PS, UKCAT/BMAT advice, no **** i pretty much know everything
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    Re: Am i wasting my time applying?
    When i see people like OP, it really makes me worry. I have much Lower gcse's, but i feel optimistic to go for med if i do well in UKcats and i'm predicted AAA. No doubt i feel i could still get 3 rejections (yeh 3 because i'm only applying to 3 med schools) and end up with Biomedical science at Qm or somethng.
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    Re: quantitative reasoning in '600 UKCAT question' book
    do people think this book is good? is it worth getting? what other books would people recommend?
    x x x
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    Re: quantitative reasoning in '600 UKCAT question' book
    "Preparing for the UKCAT and BMAT 2009" Is another recommended book.

    Dont get the 600 Questions one I'm hoping for an advantage , this year.
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    Re: The Big UKCAT 2009 Discussion Thread - PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING
    what did u get?
    what were the questions people can remember after this years testing
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    Re: The Big UKCAT 2009 Discussion Thread - PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING
    So, does the test change for every single date? Do they ever make it harder if they find that candidates are getting high scores?
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    Re: The Big UKCAT 2009 Discussion Thread - PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING
    (Original post by partysunil)
    what did u get?
    what were the questions people can remember after this years testing
    I didn't sit the UKCAT as I applied to medical school before it was introduced.

    Applicants aren't meant to discuss the questions that come up - some kind of confidentiality agreement as I understand it.

    (Original post by Reicey_x)
    So, does the test change for every single date? Do they ever make it harder if they find that candidates are getting high scores?
    I imagine there will be a large bank of questions for each section with random ones chosen for each applicant so everyone will have a slightly different selection of questions - I could be completely wrong on that but it's how the driving theory tests work which are carried out at the same centres. I doubt very much that they would change the difficulty of the questions as they are trying to use the test to discriminate between applicants and having some sitting an easier version would make this a lot more difficult.
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    I was wondering if anybody have done it and if you have could you post your practice test score.....

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    Re: The Big UKCAT 2009 Discussion Thread - PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING
    Five of the top seven threads are UKCAT. Is it that time of year again?
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    Re: The Big UKCAT 2009 Discussion Thread - PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING
    sticky!

    and get rid or merge the other ukcat threads into one.
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