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Reply 20
You'll be fine don't listen to your mom.
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Reply 21
flugestuge
The Scotch keep most of their quaint hatred for the British.:yep:

:facepalm2:
1721
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Is that thing a Haggiss ?
You know, one of those dishes that the Scotch borrowed from the English ?
Reply 23
flugestuge
Is that thing a Haggiss ?
You know, one of those dishes that the Scotch borrowed from the English ?

dont you mean british?
Reply 24
flugestuge
Is that thing a Haggiss ?
You know, one of those dishes that the Scotch borrowed from the English ?

It's a Scottish dish fella.
1721
dont you mean british?


No.

There is abundant historical evidence that the Haggis is actually an English dish. A recipe for haggis was published in an English book almost 200 years before any evidence of the dish being cooked in Scotland. The first known written recipe for the Haggis is in the cookbook Liber Cure Cocorum dating from around 1430 in Lancashire, North-West England.

The recipe was later borrowed by the Scots.
QwentyJ
It's a Scottish dish fella.


Wrong.
There is historical evidence that the Scots borrowed it from the English.
flugestuge
Wrong.
There is historical evidence that the Scots borrowed it from the English.


Come on flugestuge, you shouldn't be wasting your time on such a meaningless argument which really does display your arrogance and pig pigheadedness.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8180791.stm

A haggis recipe was published in an English book almost two hundred years before any evidence of the dish in Scotland, a historian has claimed.

Historian Catherine Brown said she found references to the dish inside a 1615 book called The English Hus-Wife.

The title would pre-date Robert Burns' poem To A Haggis, which brought fame to the delicacy, by at least 171 years.

Ms Brown said the book by Gervase Markham indicated haggis was first eaten in England and subsequently popularised by the Scots.

The first mention she could find of Scottish haggis was in 1747.

Ms Brown told the BBC the author made it quite clear haggis was enjoyed by everyone, not just Scots.

She said: "It was popular in England until the middle of the 18th Century. Whatever happened in that period, the English decided they didn't like it and the Scots decided they did.

"We had Robert Burns come along who saw in it a very practical dish using up the odds and ends and making something good out of them.

"Obviously the English turned up their noses at it and ate their roast beef, and the Scots for 350 years have been making it their own."

Her findings are due to be broadcast in a documentary on STV in Scotland.
Reply 29
flugestuge
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8180791.stm

A haggis recipe was published in an English book almost two hundred years before any evidence of the dish in Scotland, a historian has claimed.

Historian Catherine Brown said she found references to the dish inside a 1615 book called The English Hus-Wife.

The title would pre-date Robert Burns' poem To A Haggis, which brought fame to the delicacy, by at least 171 years.

Ms Brown said the book by Gervase Markham indicated haggis was first eaten in England and subsequently popularised by the Scots.

The first mention she could find of Scottish haggis was in 1747.

Ms Brown told the BBC the author made it quite clear haggis was enjoyed by everyone, not just Scots.

She said: "It was popular in England until the middle of the 18th Century. Whatever happened in that period, the English decided they didn't like it and the Scots decided they did.

"We had Robert Burns come along who saw in it a very practical dish using up the odds and ends and making something good out of them.

"Obviously the English turned up their noses at it and ate their roast beef, and the Scots for 350 years have been making it their own."

Her findings are due to be broadcast in a documentary on STV in Scotland.

One Historian with one quote doesn't make it true at all. You need consistent evidence to show that it is.
flugestuge
There is abundant historical evidence that the Haggis is actually an English dish. A recipe for haggis was published in an English book almost 200 years before any evidence of the dish being cooked in Scotland. The first known written recipe for the Haggis is in the cookbook Liber Cure Cocorum dating from around 1430 in Lancashire, North-West England.

The recipe was later borrowed by the Scots.

First written source does not equal invention. Nor does it prove that the recipe was borrowed/stolen, similar concept could develop independently.

And the 1430 Lancashire "hagese" recipe contains only offal and herbs where the Scottish haggis is based around offal, oatmeal and spices and would thus have a completely different flavour and texture and so be barely even the same concept as the modern haggis.

Frankly the general belief is that haggis pre-dates all of these written sources with suggestions that it has origins in Medieval France or Classical Greek or Rome... in all honesty it has no known origin and this topic is completely unrelated to the discussion in hand.

On the topic of "hatred"; Scots are often stereotyped as hating everyone, as Groundskeeper Willie in the Simpsons' outburst shows: "Brothers and sisters are natural enemies! Like Englishmen and Scots! Or Welshmen and Scots! Or Japanese and Scots! Or Scots and other Scots! Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!" In reality the Scottish people are like anyone else, some are prejudiced towards other nationalities but most are friendly and open to other people. There are no particular antagonisms towards Americans in Edinburgh.
Reply 31
As far as im aware, no americans have had any problems in uni thus far....and im friends with quite a few XD...they're awesome.
Question... How does Haggis apply to this thread? Take it outside. kthxbai
flugestuge
The Scotch keep most of their quaint hatred for the British.:yep:


They'll really hate you if you call them "the Scotch."
Reply 34
yossarianlives
They'll really hate you if you call them "the Scotch."

Scott the Scot loves a glass of Scotch.
Reply 35
Being American is better than being English there (though most don't hate the English either). You'll probably get a lot of questions about high school and fawning over your accent, honestly. I made the mistake once of calling it "North England" but they were cool and just teased me a bit :P
Reply 36
tzareenah
Being American is better than being English there (though most don't hate the English either). You'll probably get a lot of questions about high school and fawning over your accent, honestly. I made the mistake once of calling it "North England" but they were cool and just teased me a bit :P


Some of the Americans I've met in Edinburgh are the worst kind, though - really narrow-minded and they just think that everything in the UK is "omg like totally wrong". It's really annoying... I met someone who didn't know who Gordon Brown was. It was quite shocking actually
yossarianlives
They'll really hate you if you call them "the Scotch."


The Scotch eat Scotch Eggs.
That is why their country is called Scotchland.
Original post by Louder Than Bombs
I thought americans hated the scots these days...


My friend is an American living in Glasgow she hate Scottish

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